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Re: Help Knowing Where To Look Please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 06 May 25 20:09 BST (UK) »
THANK YOU all so much. Really, to have so many knowledgable replies in a short space of time is really appreciated. Thank you. I have much to follow now and hopefully uncover.

I do have the image from the King and also some rough family notes made by relatives of the past - that's where the prisoner story comes from with the Zerbes reference.

This side of the family are incredibly difficult to decipher - large families with multiple same names and unreliable dates of births etc!!

Again really kind of you all to give up your time and send so much help my way - I'll get cracking!

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 06 May 25 21:29 BST (UK) »
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Have put his Medal Cards on Our Pals Memorial Forum for King's Liverpool Regt under his correct Name

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 14:09 BST (UK) »
Charles Enlisted 1915 into Liverpool King's Regt as Chas E Hessey Pte 46126 these numbers appear to be allocated to the 1st Garrison Btn King's Liverpool ( though he was Never Born or Baptised as Charles Edward )
and many after Training were Transferred to the Pals Btns King's Liverpool -  mostly 18th Btn King's
But he was sent Overseas to France in 1916 with the 19th Btn
and Captured as a POW 22 March 1918
Unaware that the 19th Btn had been Disbanded
and those still serving had been Transferred to other Btns
He was a POW for 11 Months until February 1919 when he was Repatriated as new number 96726 and probably Demobbed Class Z onto the Reserve as WW1 hadn't ended yet.
But his Two Medals inscribed as Chas E Hessy  - he never returned them for correction of the Spelling
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 16:38 BST (UK) »
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Have put his Medal Cards on Our Pals Memorial Forum for King's Liverpool Regt under his correct Name

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Thank you so much. Is there a link to this page


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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 16:39 BST (UK) »
I've just been following all the threads and learning a lot along the way! I'm still not sure I fully understand the divisions/battalions etc but I think I found a link on Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/89th_Brigade_(United_Kingdom) that suggests his unit were in Roupy at the beginning of the spring offensive - which ties in the POW record of where he was captured.

The camp Langenstraza, ties in with the stories around being sent down the saltmines with Russian POWs as I read this area was renowned for it's saltmines. Although the original family story suggests he was captured at the 1st July 1916 Somme (but could easily have been confused as the Wiki reference has them around the Somme in 1918 at point of capture) and sent to Zerbes (which doesn't seem to exist but Zerst does.)

Grateful to all the help.
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 May 25 17:52 BST (UK) »
Just search on Facebook = The Liverpool Pals Memorial Pages
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 08 May 25 11:44 BST (UK) »
According to his POW record his date of birth was 6 Nov 1875
However the 1939 Register gives his date of birth as 6 Nov 1876 while living at 3a Caryl Gardens, Liverpool with wife Sarah and son James born 1912.

Spot on Andy

His GRO Birth Index was Registered December Quarter 1876 not 1875 Mother's Maiden Name = Rigby
He was born as Charles
 on Census as Charles
 Married as Charles Died as Charles  -
strange he told the Army that Edward was his Second Name.
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 08 May 25 19:22 BST (UK) »
Possibly he adopted the 'Edward' to differentiate himself from his father who was also Charles Hessy (and who incidentally spent some time in the early years of the twentieth century in the workhouse).

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 08 May 25 21:30 BST (UK) »
Possibly he adopted the 'Edward' to differentiate himself from his father who was also Charles Hessy (and who incidentally spent some time in the early years of the twentieth century in the workhouse).

Possible Theory  Andy
But some Researchers of the Family have his Father as Charles Edward also.
Most Odd
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