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Died at sea
« on: Yesterday at 20:15 »
Hi.
I'm looking into the death at sea of  Richard elphick. 
He was married to bathsheba friend 1june 1836 Hawkhurst Kent.
He ,bathsheba and children were on board the ship eleanor, bound for Australia in 1841.
Unfortunately, there was an outbreak of fever on board and deaths occurred, putting the eleanor, and passengers in quarantine just off Sydney.
Although this is well documented in various newspaper articles and such, what I'm trying to find is any information on richards death. All that is referred to when the ship landed was that he had died at sea.
I can't find him and bathsheba on any list leaving England. 
The ship did stop at tenerife for provisions on route but where was he buried at sea ?
Are there any records of deaths at sea ?
Bathsheba and children survived the voyage and she married thomas mead weller a year later in Australia.
Funny thing is ,thomas was also on the eleanor at the same time as bathsheba and Richard, and he also came from Hawkhurst.
Any help about his death at sea would be absolutely brilliant.  Thank you 😊

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Re: Died at sea
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 20:47 »
Think you are too early.
Ancestry has a collection UK, Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890 that a relation's birth & death appear in 1877 en-route to Queensland. He also appears in Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985.
For later maritime deaths of crew there has sometimes been an approximate location for the death but no record of when or where the burial at sea was conducted.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3196
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3197
For Richard Elphick there is no death record on Ancestry or Findmypast.

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Re: Died at sea
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 20:54 »
FindMyPast has an Australian passenger record which states "Died on Board" against "Calling" - no date. Bethsheba, age 26 is described as "Cook" under "Calling.
Two sons Charles and William

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Re: Died at sea
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 21:33 »
Records on FamilySearch confirm Richard "Died on board" -no date and the comment "Wife - from quarantine".


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Re: Died at sea
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 21:49 »
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Re: Died at sea
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Re: Died at sea
« Reply #6 on: Today at 07:16 »
Thank you.
I have looked at ancestry ,and find my past.
There's lots of reports in newspapers about the fever but nothing specific as to what the fever was .
I've seen records with Richard on them saying died on board but I still can't find him,his wife and children leaving England. Only arriving in Australia.
I shall keep digging 😌

Think you are too early.
Ancestry has a collection UK, Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths at Sea, 1844-1890 that a relation's birth & death appear in 1877 en-route to Queensland. He also appears in Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985.
For later maritime deaths of crew there has sometimes been an approximate location for the death but no record of when or where the burial at sea was conducted.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3196
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C3197
For Richard Elphick there is no death record on Ancestry or Findmypast.

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Re: Died at sea
« Reply #7 on: Today at 07:19 »
Thank you.
Yep . I have seen various records saying exactly that.
Very frustrating lol.
There doesn't seem to be any information on Richard, wife and children leaving England, only arriving in Australia.

Records on FamilySearch confirm Richard "Died on board" -no date and the comment "Wife - from quarantine".

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Re: Died at sea
« Reply #8 on: Today at 07:40 »
Passenger Lists held by the UK Board of Traded were routinely destroyed until about 1890.

So, you need to look at Australian sources to find any mention of passenger names.
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