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Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« on: Yesterday at 13:03 »
Jane Stevens Married John Gadney on October 18th 1690 in St Thomas, Oxford. They had 3 Children, Two Johns and a boy named Richard. Can anybody find anything for Janes Death or Janes Husband parents?

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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 15:15 »
Turns out they had 6 children. Not 3.

John born 1690
Richard born 1694
John born 1698
Robert born 1701
William born 1703
Thomas born 1708

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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 15:28 »
Do you know when John Gadney died? There's a John Gadney, of Oxford, cutler, recorded in 1740 and 1742. Or this might be his son. There was also a Thomas Gadney, of Oxford, tobacco pipemaker, recorded in 1711 and in 1697.

https://heritagesearch.oxfordshire.gov.uk/search/advanced:combined/0_50/dateRange%3A1650-1750/score_desc/_%E2%B8%9EeyJ0IjpbeyJxdWVyeSI6IkdhZG5leSIsIm1vZGUiOiJhbGwiLCJmaWVsZHMiOlsiQUxMIl19XSwibSI6IkFORCIsImF0IjoiY29tYmluZWQiLCJkZiI6IjE2NTAiLCJkdCI6IjE3NTAifQ%3D%3D

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol11/pp754-756
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs

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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 16:12 »
Do you know when John Gadney died? There's a John Gadney, of Oxford, cutler, recorded in 1740 and 1742. Or this might be his son. There was also a Thomas Gadney, of Oxford, tobacco pipemaker, recorded in 1711 and in 1697.

https://heritagesearch.oxfordshire.gov.uk/search/advanced:combined/0_50/dateRange%3A1650-1750/score_desc/_%E2%B8%9EeyJ0IjpbeyJxdWVyeSI6IkdhZG5leSIsIm1vZGUiOiJhbGwiLCJmaWVsZHMiOlsiQUxMIl19XSwibSI6IkFORCIsImF0IjoiY29tYmluZWQiLCJkZiI6IjE2NTAiLCJkdCI6IjE3NTAifQ%3D%3D

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol11/pp754-756

Sadly I do not know when he died. The Thomas Gadney Pipemaker could be Johns son perhaps though


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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 16:29 »
Thomas the pipe maker was first recorded in 1697, so he might be a brother of your John Gadney. A bit earlier, in 1667, there was a Robert Gadney, of St Mary Magdalen, Oxford, taking an apprentice, thought it doesn't say in what trade.

https://heritagesearch.oxfordshire.gov.uk/records/PAR211/5/A9/1-54
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs

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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 17:04 »
Thomas the pipe maker was first recorded in 1697, so he might be a brother of your John Gadney. A bit earlier, in 1667, there was a Robert Gadney, of St Mary Magdalen, Oxford, taking an apprentice, thought it doesn't say in what trade.

https://heritagesearch.oxfordshire.gov.uk/records/PAR211/5/A9/1-54

Thomas was born in 1708 so it is therefore impossible for him to be the recorded pipe maker

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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #6 on: Today at 13:55 »
Good Afternoon
Let's start with that marriage.In 1690 She is of St Thomas Oxford and John is of St Michael.
They seem to buried at St Michael even though their children are baptised at St Thomas ,presumably to be convieninet for her parents.

John Gadney  pipe maker Nov 1723 (before the 12th ,the spine is too tight to see) pipemaker aged 54 years.So born 1669

Jane widow 23 Oct 1727 bedmaker at Exeter College buried aged 56 years so born 1671.

There is a possible last child for the couple at St Michaels
Jean d of John and Jean pipemaker 9th March 1715.(So Jane would be 44 ).

Now to the possible parents.Only one male Gadney married at St Michaels around the right time.
Robert Gadney 17th Feb 1666 to Amy Smith.
There seems to be a son Robert at St Mary Mad. 5.11.1667 s of Robert pipemaker.
Robert Senior is buried at St Michael 5th June 1698.He died the day before. There is an Admin 1700 but it doesn't help.It just says late of the City of Oxford.
But the fact that John and Jane did have a son Robert and Robert Senior was a pipemaker would fit nicely.
The Freeman records of apprenticeship give us the following
Robert Gadney 1687 apprentice of Robert Gadney tobacco pipe maker
John Gadney 1690 apprenticeship of Robert Gadney tobacco pipe maker.
So his 2 sons perhaps.They would both be 21.

Jane I would guess was the daughter of John Stevens of St Thomas with either his wife Jane or Mary.
John bapt 21.10.1667 with wife Jane and Mary 16.10.1670 with a wife Mary.
Richard seems to be more likely on that side of the family.

The other Gadneys at the time pipemaker is Thomas and his wife Katherine.
Children at St Thomas's- Elizabeth 24.3.1699 ,Thomas 18.12.1701 ,Thomas 15.2.1702,and John 12.12.1704.In the Wills for them is a daughter Katherine.
Thomas's Will 1714 and Katherine's 1727.(7.6.1727)
She mentions an Uncle John Gadney yeoman of Wytham as one of her executors.
Could Thomas  be John's other brother?

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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #7 on: Today at 14:31 »
Good Afternoon
Let's start with that marriage.In 1690 She is of St Thomas Oxford and John is of St Michael.
They seem to buried at St Michael even though their children are baptised at St Thomas ,presumably to be convieninet for her parents.

John Gadney  pipe maker Nov 1723 (before the 12th ,the spine is too tight to see) pipemaker aged 54 years.So born 1669

Jane widow 23 Oct 1727 bedmaker at Exeter College buried aged 56 years so born 1671.

There is a possible last child for the couple at St Michaels
Jean d of John and Jean pipemaker 9th March 1715.(So Jane would be 44 ).

Now to the possible parents.Only one male Gadney married at St Michaels around the right time.
Robert Gadney 17th Feb 1666 to Amy Smith.
There seems to be a son Robert at St Mary Mad. 5.11.1667 s of Robert pipemaker.
Robert Senior is buried at St Michael 5th June 1698.He died the day before. There is an Admin 1700 but it doesn't help.It just says late of the City of Oxford.
But the fact that John and Jane did have a son Robert and Robert Senior was a pipemaker would fit nicely.
The Freeman records of apprenticeship give us the following
Robert Gadney 1687 apprentice of Robert Gadney tobacco pipe maker
John Gadney 1690 apprenticeship of Robert Gadney tobacco pipe maker.
So his 2 sons perhaps.They would both be 21.

Jane I would guess was the daughter of John Stevens of St Thomas with either his wife Jane or Mary.
John bapt 21.10.1667 with wife Jane and Mary 16.10.1670 with a wife Mary.
Richard seems to be more likely on that side of the family.

The other Gadneys at the time pipemaker is Thomas and his wife Katherine.
Children at St Thomas's- Elizabeth 24.3.1699 ,Thomas 18.12.1701 ,Thomas 15.2.1702,and John 12.12.1704.In the Wills for them is a daughter Katherine.
Thomas's Will 1714 and Katherine's 1727.(7.6.1727)
She mentions an Uncle John Gadney yeoman of Wytham as one of her executors.
Could Thomas  be John's other brother?

Ciderdrinker

Hi There,

Wowie thats alot of info to process haha! Jean is possibly I suppose but it says the mother is Jean aswell. So not sure. Roberts Dad was John Gadney and Jane Stevens and he was Baptised in St Thomas in 1701. So sadly I think we can rule out the pipemaker option aswell. The wills seem interesting. Will have a dig through those to see if any puzzle pieces come together.

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Re: Jane Gadney (Nee Stevens)
« Reply #8 on: Today at 14:33 »
Good Afternoon
Let's start with that marriage.In 1690 She is of St Thomas Oxford and John is of St Michael.
They seem to buried at St Michael even though their children are baptised at St Thomas ,presumably to be convieninet for her parents.

John Gadney  pipe maker Nov 1723 (before the 12th ,the spine is too tight to see) pipemaker aged 54 years.So born 1669

Jane widow 23 Oct 1727 bedmaker at Exeter College buried aged 56 years so born 1671.

There is a possible last child for the couple at St Michaels
Jean d of John and Jean pipemaker 9th March 1715.(So Jane would be 44 ).

Now to the possible parents.Only one male Gadney married at St Michaels around the right time.
Robert Gadney 17th Feb 1666 to Amy Smith.
There seems to be a son Robert at St Mary Mad. 5.11.1667 s of Robert pipemaker.
Robert Senior is buried at St Michael 5th June 1698.He died the day before. There is an Admin 1700 but it doesn't help.It just says late of the City of Oxford.
But the fact that John and Jane did have a son Robert and Robert Senior was a pipemaker would fit nicely.
The Freeman records of apprenticeship give us the following
Robert Gadney 1687 apprentice of Robert Gadney tobacco pipe maker
John Gadney 1690 apprenticeship of Robert Gadney tobacco pipe maker.
So his 2 sons perhaps.They would both be 21.

Jane I would guess was the daughter of John Stevens of St Thomas with either his wife Jane or Mary.
John bapt 21.10.1667 with wife Jane and Mary 16.10.1670 with a wife Mary.
Richard seems to be more likely on that side of the family.

The other Gadneys at the time pipemaker is Thomas and his wife Katherine.
Children at St Thomas's- Elizabeth 24.3.1699 ,Thomas 18.12.1701 ,Thomas 15.2.1702,and John 12.12.1704.In the Wills for them is a daughter Katherine.
Thomas's Will 1714 and Katherine's 1727.(7.6.1727)
She mentions an Uncle John Gadney yeoman of Wytham as one of her executors.
Could Thomas  be John's other brother?

Ciderdrinker

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