Frank Lewis from Wolverhampton/The Black Country: Hard to trace

[Matt7924]

Dyson could be the fathers name but if so will be difficult to find which Mr Dyson it may have been.

For Lily to say she was a widow wasn’t unheard of either, more respectable than saying you were unmarried if living alone with a child. 

Do let us know what the birth says and if we can help further.

I think I'd heard this before, that an unmarried woman with a child said they were a widow because of how it was more respectable

[Matt7924]

Lily Louisa is showing as a single woman in 1921 - working in service in Teddington, Middlesex

I saw this record recently and how Cyril wasn't mentioned, I wonder where he was in 1921, perhaps living with relatives? It looks even more like Frank Lewis was just invented by him for the marriage certificate

[Matt7924]

I am going to order the certificate, was the £3.00 order mentioned for viewing the birth index record?

[Milliepede]

You get to download the image of the birth certificate information for £3.00 which is then available immediately to view on your screen.

Via the GRO website. 

[Milliepede]

I wonder where he was in 1921, perhaps living with relatives?

Good question yes where was he.  Possibly with grandparents? 

[rosie99]

I wonder where he was in 1921, perhaps living with relatives?

Good question yes where was he. Possibly with grandparents? 

Were Lily's parents Thomas and Hannah 

Hannah was a widow in 1901 age 43 bn Dudley living Wolverhampton

[Matt7924]

I wonder where he was in 1921, perhaps living with relatives?

Good question yes where was he. Possibly with grandparents? 

Were Lily's parents Thomas and Hannah 

Hannah was a widow in 1901 age 43 bn Dudley living Wolverhampton

Lily's parents were Thomas and Hannah, sorry about the late reply. I wonder why they moved to Wolverhampton? Cyril and Lily were living on the western outskirts of Wolverhampton in 1939 in what was then a fairly new house

[Matt7924]

I've ordered Cyril's birth certificate now, it will be very interesting to see what it says about his father. It was mentioned on here about how Cyril's middle name Dyson might have had connections with his father. Although the Frank Lewis mentioned on the marriage certificate might not have existed, I remember seeing on the 1939 census a few years ago there was a Frank H. Lewis living just down the road from Lily and Cyril. This Frank had a surname as his middle name, it was Henshaw, but I don't think there's any connection

[Matt7924]

Cyril Lewis's birth certificate came today and it mentions he was born at Prince Street, Netherton, Dudley. As I suspected, it shows his father's section to be blank. It also mentions his mother Lily's occupation was domestic servant. As there's no details on his father, it makes me wonder where Cyril's middle name Dyson came from, unless it was Lily's mother's maiden name.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, when Lily and Cyril were living in Wolverhampton in 1939, there was a Frank Lewis who lived down the road who appears to have been unrelated as I traced his family and found they originated from Willenhall (for members who don't know the Black Country Willenhall is between Wolverhampton and Walsall) and they were lock makers like so many people in Willenhall.

I wonder if Cyril might have known Frank and that could possibly have been why he used the name Frank for his imaginary father on the marriage certificate.  I was also thinking as Lily was a domestic servant, could the father have been her employer as I know this did happen