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Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« on: Saturday 03 May 25 09:28 BST (UK) »
I am researching Mary Gunning who was sentenced to 7 years transportation to New South Wales in October 1833. Mary was from Galway, Ireland, and at the time of her trial, she was married to Daniel Gratidge (his surname could well be incorrectly spelled) who was, supposedly, a soldier in the 17th Regiment Mounted Police. I cannot find any reference to this regiment, only to the 17th foot regiment from Leicestershire who were sent to Australia in the early 1830s. There is no indication that Mary and Daniel met up in New South Wales and I can't find anyone with the surname Gratidge or numerous variations using Ancestry. Any help will be most gratefully received.

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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 May 25 09:41 BST (UK) »
Her 1841 Cert of Freedom (on FindMyPast) has "Gunning or Grabridge" as transcribed. Looking at the original it is difficult to identify as a "b" or uncrossed "t".
Other transcripts "Gratidge, Gratildge, Gratridge"

Could the 17th be the 17th Regiment of Lancers?

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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 May 25 09:50 BST (UK) »
The 17th Regiment of Lancers would make sense as, on their return from India in 1823 some were sent to Ireland for garrison duty. So that means Daniel was probably English rather than Irish.

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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 May 25 10:53 BST (UK) »
A mention of a Daniel Grattidge of the 17th Regiment in the medical journal of the convict ship Lady Feversham, 1830:

"Daniel Grattidge, aged 40, private, 17th Regiment; case number 37; disease or hurt, ophthalmia. Put on sick list, 14 June 1830 at sea. Discharged 17 June 1830 to duty."

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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 May 25 03:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for locating that information, Shaun. I'm most grateful. Now I'm looking for information on this Daniel either in England or in the colony, though I haven't been successful so far!


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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 May 25 06:46 BST (UK) »
From:   https://www.bda-online.org.au/

Results for Regiment: 17th Regiment.

Grattage Daniel  Private
Born: Ashbourne Derbyshire England
1830 TAS per Lady Feversham

Also as
Grattan Daniel



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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 May 25 06:53 BST (UK) »
Possible Baptism:

Name   Daniel Grattage
Gender   Male
Event Type   Baptism
Birth Date   24 Dec
Baptism Date   20 Jan 1799
Baptism Place   Ashbourne, St Oswald, Derbyshire, England
Father   
Thos Grattage
Mother   
Ann Grattage


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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 May 25 08:08 BST (UK) »
Derbyshire Courier, 10 Aug 1844

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Re: Was there such a thing as the 17th Regiment Mounted Police?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 May 25 08:14 BST (UK) »
Danl Grattage
in the UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Admission Books, Registers and Papers, 1702-1980

Name   Danl Grattage
Military Pension Age   41
Birth Date   abt 1800
Birth Place   Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Military Regiment   28 Ft
Military Pension Date   15 Sep 1841
Residence Place   Wirksworth


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