Charles emile derraven

[Steve emo]

Hi I am looking for more information on Charles emile derraven who was born in Barbados and died in 1943 he married rose anstice in 1928 this was his second marriage if anyone on here is a relative and has anymore information as we are doing a family tree on my wife’s side please contact me. Thanks

[QueenoftheWest]

Welcome to RootsChat!

Have you seen this?

I do have names, supported by and taken from the following certificates, which arrived today. 

An 1899 marriage certificate for a Charles Emile Derraven (age 28, seaman) and a Margaret Jane Lugton (age 25).
Charles's father, also Charles Emile Derraven (decd), a ship's carpenter.
Margaret's father, William Lugton, also a ship's carpenter.

A  1928 marriage certificate for a Charles Emile Derraven, (age 49, ship's boatswain) and Rose Lilian Anstice (age 21).
Charles's father, also Charles Emile Derraven (decd), an architect.
Rose Lilian's father was Charles Valentine Anstice, a boiler maker.

A 1943 death certificate for a Charles Derraven, age 72, boatswain (retd) M.S. of 4 Mill Parade, Newport.
The informant was R. L. Derraven, widow of the deceased, at the same address.

Taken from reply number 8 on an old thread:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=55656.0

Queenie 

[Steve emo]

Hi yes I had seen that I was hoping that somebody on here but have more information on him as he was my wife’s grandads dad from his first marriage we did not know he married again and a lady a lot younger so we don’t know if he went on to have anymore children. Thanks

[AlanBoyd]

What is the evidence that he was born in Barbados?

Westoe (South), County , St. Michael & All Angels
24 May 1911 Charles Derraven, of 63 Byron Street, born 23 Apr 1911, child of Charles (sailor) & Margaret Derraven

in the 1911 census
63 Byron Street South Shields
Charles Derraven, 42, sailor, born Canada [birth is annotated (Res.) British]
wife Margaret Jane, 39, b South Shields
5 children
John Willie Lugton 31? brother-in-law

[Steve emo]

Right ok, he went from Barbados to Canada that’s what we know, my wife’s’ grandad is of black origin so we think once he got to Canada he must have changed things, you know how easy it was to do then

[AlanBoyd]

Something odd about the 2nd marriage to Rose Lilian Anstice in 1928 because Margaret Derravan was still claiming to be married in 1939

1939
South Shields
Margaret Derravan born 24/8/1873, status is Married

Margaret Jane Lugton birth reg Q4 1873, South Shields

[Steve emo]

Wow now that is interesting perhaps she was claiming money elsewhere or he did a runner and never got divorced, do you know if he fathered anymore children in Newport as our ultimate goal is hopefully find a photo of some sort. Thank you

[AlanBoyd]

A Charles Derravan/Derraven, born in Barbados was in Newport at the end of WWI:

Charles Derraven b 1867 Barbados was awarded a medal for merchant service during WWI
the medal card refers to an issue date in 1919 and to an illegible address (24 Llanwith Street?) in Newport.

Charles Derravan, crew member SS Lurway?? arriving New York 11/3/1922 has nationality West Indian (British), engaged at Newport, Monmouthshire, age 55.

[AlanBoyd]

Well, this seems to link everything together.

3 February 1917: Shields Daily Gazette