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I did a double-take when I saw 111 year-old Ada Roe mentioned in the article - Ada Roe was my Grandma! Different one though. And Gadget, my Dad was born in July, 1909 and died in 2004. I really thought he'd make his century.

Ethel looks very good for her age. No wonder they call these wonderful people the  Greatest Generation.
Roe,Wells, Bent, Kemp, Weston
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This means Ethel was a young adult in 1929, which is already knocking on 100 years ago now and was 20 when the stock market crashed, and she is still around to remember it.

She may vaguelly remember the news about the Titanic sinking but would only have been 3. I knew someone born in 1907 who died about 15 years ago and she remembered the Titanic sinking.
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Great if you  want to live that long but idea of living another thirty two years fills me with horror.

I did have a second cousin who lived one hundred and ten years and two months,  born the 3rd March 1901,  died the 3rd  May 2011.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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As we are told repeatedly, that we have an aging population, what do you all suggest, to be simple method to monitor this nationally, the average/mean age of deaths and how many exceed age 100. 

Sadly, FreeBMD are not able to cover these parameters and census records are slow to emerge and are of limited use.
Many thanks.


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In the past they used to assume very old people were centenarians and they either didn't check records or couldn't check records. Annie Garvey who was from County Armagh, Ireland but lived most of her life in Liverpool was recorded as being 107 when she died in 1914. She appears to have been born in Creggan Upper/Crossmaglen, Armagh in 1822 so she would have been about 92 years old when she died:-

https://merseysidebiographypages.weebly.com/annie-garvey.html

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Re: Born 1909 and still alive - British woman is now the oldest person in the world
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 03 May 25 10:06 BST (UK) »
ERATO,
many thanks for this useful link.  I now realise that this is why we employ statisicians!

What surprised me is the rapidity and volatility of all the different factors in measuring recent changes both in the age and also the sex differences.
'Doubled since 2002' even with Covid but the post WWI population birth rate bulge will be an temporary influence but with the overall growth in total population the centenarians will probably increase.

This page gets closer to my original simplistic query 'How many people exceed age 100'.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/ageing/bulletins/estimatesoftheveryoldincludingcentenarians/2002to2022

MAIN POINTS:
In 2022 the estimated population of England and Wales aged 90 years and over grew by 2.1% compared with 2021; this was its highest ever total (550,835 people).

The number of centenarians has more than doubled since 2002, with an estimated 15,120 centenarians living in England and Wales in 2022.

The large post-First World War birth cohort, aged 102 years in 2022, still affected the number of centenarians in England and Wales and accounted for 17.0% of those aged 100 years and over.

The sex ratio among centenarians in England and Wales has almost halved in the last 20 years, from 8.2 women to every man aged 100 years and over in 2002, to 4.5 women to every man in 2022.

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Re: Born 1909 and still alive - British woman is now the oldest person in the world
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 03 May 25 10:20 BST (UK) »
In the past they used to assume very old people were centenarians and they either didn't check records or couldn't check records. Annie Garvey who was from County Armagh, Ireland but lived most of her life in Liverpool was recorded as being 107 when she died in 1914. She appears to have been born in Creggan Upper/Crossmaglen, Armagh in 1822 so she would have been about 92 years old when she died:-

https://merseysidebiographypages.weebly.com/annie-garvey.html

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BLUE70
many thanks for this clear illustration of why we can't always trust statistics!

And thanks for including the excellent reference to Annie GARVEY based upon the research of https://www.johngrenham.com

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Re: Born 1909 and still alive - British woman is now the oldest person in the world
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 03 May 25 11:38 BST (UK) »
In the past they used to assume very old people were centenarians and they either didn't check records or couldn't check records. Annie Garvey who was from County Armagh, Ireland but lived most of her life in Liverpool was recorded as being 107 when she died in 1914. She appears to have been born in Creggan Upper/Crossmaglen, Armagh in 1822 so she would have been about 92 years old when she died:-

https://merseysidebiographypages.weebly.com/annie-garvey.html

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BLUE70
many thanks for this clear illustration of why we can't always trust statistics!

And thanks for including the excellent reference to Annie GARVEY based upon the research of https://www.johngrenham.com

Thanks, I like to 'name-drop' resources that might be useful to other researchers and to give the resources credit. Irish research can be tricky so anything useful needs to be promoted. There's more about Annie Garvey online if anyone wants to read more about her including newspaper articles but I've tried to focus more on records than what was said about her. I think I'm probably the first researcher to identify her baptism and her family's records in Armagh.