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Offline danielr

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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #9 on: Friday 02 May 25 12:57 BST (UK) »
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In the christening records for her daughter Elizabeth, the maternal grandfather's name is given as Thomas Grey.

I'm a bit confused by this (not difficult  ;D ) So far I can only find baptisms records where Elizabeth's father's name is given as Thomas. Where have you found a record which states that Mary's father (i.e. Elizabeth's grandfather) was Thomas?

This was on a record image, however upon reviewing I am now noticing a difference in the handwriting ::). Probably wasn’t on the original record?
England: Clark (Cumberland), Davies (Shropshire), Grey (Northumberland), Hetherington (Northumberland), Hoverd (Oxfordshire), McKnight (Cumberland), McPherson (Northumberland), Robinson (Northumberland)
Scotland: Horn (Midlothian, 1600s)

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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #10 on: Friday 02 May 25 13:05 BST (UK) »
What was the source of the image you’ve seen?
Could you give a link to it?
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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #11 on: Friday 02 May 25 14:04 BST (UK) »
What was the source of the image you’ve seen?
Could you give a link to it?
This may explain it JenB
There is a transcription on Durham Records Online
01 Oct 1809, Father was native of Alnwick, Mother was the daughter of Thos. Grey, husbandman of Brandon White House

There is a Note on the record that says there are 2 versions of the register in existence for 1798-1809.One in the usual terse format and one that contains the extra info we usually get in the Barrington years
added Durham Records Online say they have combined both to show as much detail as possible in their records

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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #12 on: Friday 02 May 25 14:12 BST (UK) »
Yesterday, danieir said In the 1851 census, her birth year is given as 1788 (est.) and place as Kyloe, Durham. She is living in "[blank], Northumberland". --- not so, they were living at Lemmington Bank Top --- Lemmington is near to Alnwick.


I love connections :-)
Death Notice , Morpeth Herald 09 Feb 1861, page 8, col 4

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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #13 on: Friday 02 May 25 14:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that - Durham Records Online was the one place I failed to check. I'd still like to have a sight of the image which danielr refers to.

Just adding that in the 1861 census Mary's birthplace is Fenwick Steads, which was definitely situated in the parish of Kyloe.
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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #14 on: Friday 02 May 25 18:13 BST (UK) »
This may explain it JenBThere is a transcription on Durham Records Online
01 Oct 1809, Father was native of Alnwick, Mother was the daughter of Thos. Grey, husbandman of Brandon White House

Brandon White House was in Eglingham Parish (which was extremely large)
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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 03 May 25 04:45 BST (UK) »
What was the source of the image you’ve seen?
Could you give a link to it?

It was an image I’d saved from, maybe Ancestry? Looks like it was someone’s notes researching the Elizabeth Grey side of the tree though. When I’m next at the library I’ll see if I can find it  :)
England: Clark (Cumberland), Davies (Shropshire), Grey (Northumberland), Hetherington (Northumberland), Hoverd (Oxfordshire), McKnight (Cumberland), McPherson (Northumberland), Robinson (Northumberland)
Scotland: Horn (Midlothian, 1600s)

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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 03 May 25 10:11 BST (UK) »
Yesterday, danieir said In the 1851 census, her birth year is given as 1788 (est.) and place as Kyloe, Durham. She is living in "[blank], Northumberland". --- not so, they were living at Lemmington Bank Top --- Lemmington is near to Alnwick.


I love connections :-)
Death Notice , Morpeth Herald 09 Feb 1861, page 8, col 4

Boo

Ah awesome, fantastic find! Age also matches with the birth-year I’ve found so is very likely him.
England: Clark (Cumberland), Davies (Shropshire), Grey (Northumberland), Hetherington (Northumberland), Hoverd (Oxfordshire), McKnight (Cumberland), McPherson (Northumberland), Robinson (Northumberland)
Scotland: Horn (Midlothian, 1600s)

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Re: Mary Grey
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 03 May 25 11:02 BST (UK) »

Death Notice , Morpeth Herald 09 Feb 1861, page 8, col 4

Boo

Ah awesome, fantastic find! Age also matches with the birth-year I’ve found so is very likely him.

Link to the burial register (Bishop's Transcript) entry image for Thomas Mole
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6S89-V5D?

If you want further confirmation/clues to decide if its the right man, you'd need to see his civil death certificate details : A death entry for this time will give date and place of death, name, age, occupation, cause of death and the name and address of the informant - who hopefully is a known relative :-)

if you don't already have one, sign up for a free account at https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

If you are logged in you can search historical births/deaths in England & Wales. Once you find one and select it you get 3 options to order the record
1 an official certificate  - by post on a posh piece of paper cost £12.50
2 a pdf image of the original register entry - by email within a few days cost £8
3 a digital image of the register entry - immediately available online after payment cost £3
no prizes for guessing which option is my preferred one.
However there 'can'  be problems with the digital ones as they were not always scanned 'straight' and sometimes  the top or bottom may not be viewable. I still try that option first, if the image isn't fully readable, I ask for a refund (they are not rescanning these) and order the pdf version.

Boo