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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 01 May 25 18:06 BST (UK) »
Maybe his aunt Violet Louise and uncle Hugh Oswald had a plot somewhere?

CHURCH FETE AT HESSENFORD OPENED BY WIFE OF AVIATION PIONEER Mrs. Short, wife of Mr. Oswald Short, one of the Short Brothers of flying-boat family, declared open a garden fete in the grounds of Hessenford vicarage on Saturday. Mrs. Short was accompanied by her husband. They live at Trevisquite Manor. Bt. Mabyn.

Published: Thursday 05 August 1954
Newspaper: Cornish Guardian
County: Cornwall, England


She died in 1966 and Hugh Oswald died in 1969 in Midhurst.


...explained by letter that she only intended to take a close-up of her friends Inspector Tucker pointed out that Mrs Violet Louise Short Trevisquite Manor St Mabyn was with Miss King and also took photographs and had reported the matter to the police when ...

Published: Thursday 11 September 1941
Newspaper: Newquay Express and Cornwall County Chronicle
County: Cornwall, England

Mr and Mrs Short Trevisquite Manor Cornish Arms St Tudy Jim and Brenda Dart Players (Commercial Hotel Wadebridge) Members of Eglos-halye Darts Club Mrs and ...

Published: Thursday 27 December 1951
Newspaper: Cornish Guardian
County: Cornwall, England


I wonder if when they restored their grave headstone they forgot to add Francisco's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcGjSs18YI

https://shortbrothersaviationpioneers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/newsletters/short-brothers-newsletter-016.pdf
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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 01 May 25 19:11 BST (UK) »
Yes the couple do, an early check out. Not there!  Francis did help Oswald Short a great deal when battling the British government.  I guess I may have to give up on my search. Shame!

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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 01 May 25 19:12 BST (UK) »
I wonder if when they restored their grave headstone they forgot to add Francisco's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcGjSs18YI

https://shortbrothersaviationpioneers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/newsletters/short-brothers-newsletter-016.pdf

It looks like they moved around 1957, but maybe they had another house in West Sussex and the plot in the cemetery? Long shot...


Have you looked here?  https://stgermansparishes.com/graveyard/graveyard-list/

A couple of ??? headstones...
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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 02 May 25 08:28 BST (UK) »
I wonder if when they restored their grave headstone they forgot to add Francisco's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKcGjSs18YI

https://shortbrothersaviationpioneers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/newsletters/short-brothers-newsletter-016.pdf

It looks like they moved around 1957, but maybe they had another house in West Sussex and the plot in the cemetery? Long shot…



Have you looked here?  https://stgermansparishes.com/graveyard/graveyard-list/

A couple of ??? headstones...


The graves in Sussex for The Short’s were renovated by Liz Walker. She is a distant relation of the Short Brothers. Among other items she also thru public appeal repaired the 2x Short graves.

I checked this location and I am waiting for confirmation from Liz Walker herself.  Francis Short was close to the couple, he was treated like a son by them. But I don’t think there is further evidence.

After the Inquest on Francis Short, the body would become the property of the next of kin/widow. The body was in the local hospital and was collected.  There are no records who collected the body, or where it went.  After the hospital, the rest becomes a mystery.

When Winnie Orchard moved to New Zealand she spoke often about her days in Padstow/Rock but never about where husband one was buried.  It seems he was mentioned very much.

I don’t like a mystery but I have no idea where to look/search anymore.

Thank you to everyone who helped, I am grateful.

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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 02 May 25 10:25 BST (UK) »
The person who gave evidence of identity of Francisco Samuel Short, was Percy Parker of The Bungalow, Trevisquite St Mabyn. He was in the hotel drinking with Mr Short.

Mr Parker lived in the same area as Hugh Oswald Short, who lived at Trevisquite Manor, St Mabyn. He would have known the Short family.

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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 12:40 BST (UK) »
Any final thoughts please on the location of the burial of Francisco Samuel Short ?  Died 1954 at The Fountain Inn,  in Liskeard, Cornwall while on a business trip.  No record of his cremation/burial once undertakers took the body after the Inquest had been held.

Grateful for any new eyes on this please. I am up against a deadline now.

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Mike

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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 15:31 BST (UK) »
Old eyes here I'm afraid  ;D

Have you tried this place given as his address?

'Francisco Samuel Short, of "Leylands," Meopham, in the County of Kent'

https://vlex.co.uk/vid/short-v-treasury-comrs-793722029
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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 15:33 BST (UK) »
Old eyes here I'm afraid  ;D

Have you tried this place given as his address?

'Francisco Samuel Short, of "Leylands," Meopham, in the County of Kent'

https://vlex.co.uk/vid/short-v-treasury-comrs-793722029


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Yes I have tried that location and of course the nearby churchyard. Nothing.

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Re: Francisco Samuel Short ?
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 21 May 25 15:35 BST (UK) »
Well, this is officially a mystery!

Would Winnie be bold enough to donate his body to science? Would that be possible at that time? Is this a ludicrous idea?
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