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Albert Godson/Beckett
« on: Monday 28 April 25 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
I'm currently working on the family tree of my late mum's half brother.  All are deceased.

My Grandma, Annie Elizabeth Prince was born in Leicester in 1891. By April 1914 she had married Albert Godson/Beckett, was heavily pregnant and was living in Stafford. Their son was born in May 1914 and a month later Albert died of tb..

His parents persuaded Annie to leave the baby with them and return to Leicester,  where she eventually met and married my Grandfather.

The difficulty is that Albert's mother was, I believe, bigamously married to his father. 

Annie used the surnames Prince, Godson and Beckett as her maiden name on the birth certificates of the children she and my grandfather had. I think Albert also alternated between Godson and Beckett.

I can find Albert on the 1901 census, living with the Cartwright family but can't find him in 1891 or 1911.

I  have his death certificate and am wsiting on the marriage certificate.  I believe Albert was born about 1886 in Stafford or Staffordshire but can't trace his birth.


I know that by the late 1940s, the son, who had been named Arthur Andrew Reginald Godson (known as Reg) was living with his mother and the children from her second marriage in Leicester and I know that he was part of a rather large skeleton in my grandma's cupboard as my mum spoke a bit about him. My dad met him but was not aware of his actual relationship to my mum and her siblings.

I can't find him on the 1921 census although he's listed on the 1939 register. He never married as far as I can tell.

Please can anyone find Albert or Arthur/Reg  in the census or baptisms or births? Nothing comes up on GRO, free BMD, FindMyPast nor FS and I currently don't have Ancestry.

Thanks in advance.
June.
Knight, Bates, Newton, Pick,Perkins, Marshall, North, Kilby, Beckett, Prince.

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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 April 25 22:42 BST (UK) »
Albert and Alfred (surely his brother?) are still with the Cartwrights in 1911 - transcribed on Ancestry as Gadson

My eye was taken by Lily Becket aged 6 b Leicester who's also a boarder in 1901

BECKETT, LILIAN
mmn        GODSON     
LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 197

They must all be related - Mary Cartwright's maiden name is Hartill. This is her previous marriage

Mary Hartell,     22
Alferd Godson 29
Marriage Place    Saint Mary, Stafford, Stafford, England
Marriage Date    24 Jun 1866

She married James Cartwright in 1871


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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 April 25 23:00 BST (UK) »
The fact Albert changes between Godson and Beckett suggests to me his mother had both these surnames at various points  - maybe he was born before she married Mr Beckett and Lily is his half sister?

I'm trying to untangle them all, but the Godsons all seem to call their sons Alfred, Albert and Arthur!

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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 April 25 23:08 BST (UK) »
Just to note      

BECKETT, ELIZABETH        
mmn GODSON     
Q3 1890
BILLESDON  Volume 07A  Page 25 

Looks like she's with Granny and family in Evington, Leicestershire,  in 1891. The Becketts have Staffordshire connections


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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 April 25 00:48 BST (UK) »
Death of husband of Mary.  Marriage to James Cartwright 1871 after census

Deaths Sep Q 1867   
GODSON  Alfred   age 30 Stafford  6b 3

1871 - St Mary, Stafford - James Cartwright & family living a few doors above Hartell.

All born Staffordshire
Cathrine Hartell 55 Head
Mary Hartell 26 Daughter
Hannah Hartell 14 Daughter
Emma Crutchley 19 Boarder
Sarah Godson   5   Granddaughter
Alfred Godson 3 Grandson
Thomas Kent 1 Nurse Child (Nurse)
Lizzy Gerland 12 Granddaughter

Birth
GODSON, SARAH  HARTELL  mmn   HARTELL 
GRO Reference: 1866  S Quarter in STAFFORD  Volume 06B  Page 3

1881, Stafford - down as Sarah Cartwright with James &  mother Mary

Marriages Jun Q 1887   
Beckett    James        Leicester    7a   346    
Godsan    Sarah Hartell Leicester    7a   346   

1891 in Evington, Leicestershire with husband & family.

1901
Leicestershire
James Beckett 35 Head
Sarah Beckett   35   Wife
Elizabeth Beckett 10 Daughter
Alfred Godson 6 Nephew.  - Also enumerated at house of Grandmother Mary Cartwright, (was Godson, nee Hartell). - Son of Alfred Godson born 1867.

Likely death for Sarah 1905 in Leicester

1911 down as Jamas Berkitt, widower mistranscribed on A*

1921 - Reggie Beckett age 7 yrs 1 mth, with grandfather James Beckett age 55 living Leicester

Still looking for a birth registration for Albert bc 1886. Born before (with James being grandfather) parents marriage so maybe under Beckett or Godson.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 April 25 01:48 BST (UK) »
Not finding him under either surname, but a good possible as likely mother registered Sarah Hartell Godson

HARTELL, ALBERT       -  no maiden listed
GRO Reference: 1886  J Quarter in STAFFORD  Volume 06B  Page 18

There is this possible bapt..same date as wedding of Mary & Alfred snr, so born shortly before marriage registered after?

Sarah Hartell
Christening Date   24 Jun 1866
Christening Place   Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Mother   Mary Hartell

Bapt of her brother
Alfred Godson
Baptism Date   25 Sep 1867
Baptism Place   St. Mary, Stafford, Stafford, England
Father   Alfred Godson
Mother   Mary
FHL Film Number   1040878
Reference ID   - 2:3KW7N2V

His Marriage
Alfred Godson
Marriage Age   24
Residence Place   11 Clarke Street
Marriage Date   4 Jun 1892
Marriage Place   Stafford, St Mary, Staffordshire, England
Father   Alfred Godson
Spouse   Mary Ann Reeves
Religion   Anglican
Page number   91

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 April 25 13:20 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone.
Thank you for the replies. Some interesting information there. I'm very grateful to you all.

This is the second family with possible bigamy  in my grandma'sfamily line. But this one has so many changes of names that I'm just going round in circles.

My Grandma,  was scared that she'd get into some sort of trouble over past happenings and she was a lady who was afraid of no one, even cloutiig Mick McManus over the head with her handbag on one occasion but she refused to go into detail about her forst marriage and the son she bore. The birth certificates for all her children show that she was probably as confused as I am over her correct married name.


Knight, Bates, Newton, Pick,Perkins, Marshall, North, Kilby, Beckett, Prince.

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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 April 25 13:51 BST (UK) »
Albert death?

Deaths Jun Q 1914   
Godson    Albert   age 28    Stafford    6b   23   

After this date she was free to marry..I am not sure where bigamy comes in.



Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Albert Godson/Beckett
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 April 25 14:25 BST (UK) »
Sorry, I didn't explain things very well.  My Grandma wasn't a bigamist. Her mother in law was. This is why Albert had an assortment of surnames.
Knight, Bates, Newton, Pick,Perkins, Marshall, North, Kilby, Beckett, Prince.