Author Topic: streets in masham  (Read 221 times)

Offline RayK

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
streets in masham
« on: Monday 28 April 25 08:22 BST (UK) »
My poorer relatives in Masham near Ripon have an address of Cross the Hill in early censuses. I cannot find this on any street map. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Ray

Offline fiddlerslass

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,191
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: streets in masham
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 April 25 09:55 BST (UK) »
I think it is now Cross Hill which is the area where the White Bear and Black Sheep brewery are.  If you follow the census descriptions at the start of the section describing the enumerators walk they seem to go from Cross of the Hill onwards in the direction of Marfield House and Low Mains.

1939 there is a Herbert Scaife b 1882 living at Cross hill Masham, sandwiched between the White Bear and Marfield Terrace. Not far away is Gun Bank; I am wondering if this was originally part of Cross of the Hill renamed?
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder, Straka & others from Czechia

Online AlanBoyd

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,083
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: streets in masham
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 April 25 11:05 BST (UK) »
A list of recipients of gifts in the Leeds Mercury of 17 April 1934 includes:
Quote
Irene Hill, Marfield Terrace, Cross Hills, Masham

Marfield Terrace is a row of cottages on the west side of Gun Bank opposite the White Bear Hotel.  If you are a user of what3words it is at pasting.moons.owned

Marfield Terrace is labelled on Apple Maps, but not on Google Maps.

Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

Online AlanBoyd

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,083
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: streets in masham
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 April 25 11:12 BST (UK) »
A side-by-side view of the 1892 25 inch map centered upon Marfield Terrace.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=18.4&lat=54.22451&lon=-1.65885&layers=168&right=osm
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon


Offline RayK

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 17
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: streets in masham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 April 25 13:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your very quick replies, and amazingly helpful. Though "Cross the hill" not on any street map I knew from census returns it must be near Silver Street. Being near to the breweries helped and I see now the six houses on Gun Bank are 19th Century when the lane might have been unnamed. Houses now called Marfield Terrace because the lane continues to the old Marfield House, which I found on old OS map. I have now looked at the 1911 cen, and I see Cross is short for Across and the family declared their address to be Cross Street.  I guess Cross the Hill comes from the direction of crossing the slope as it lowers down to the river. This was very poor housing with 2 or 3 families sharing a 2 up and 2 down building, saying they each had 2 rooms, one of which was a shared kitchen.

Online AlanBoyd

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,083
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: streets in masham
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 April 25 14:27 BST (UK) »
Here’s a possible sighting of the use of “across the hill” in a reference to poor housing in Masham.

6 October 1933: Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer

Quote
NO SLUM PROPOSALS
Ministry of Health Send Official to Masham
It was revealed at Masham Urban Council meeting that an official of the Ministry of Health had made an unexpected visit to the district and had inspected property with the Medical Ofticer (Dr. H. M. Cockcroft).

Dr. Cockcroft stated that the official wanted to know if a survey had been made regarding slum clearance as no report had been sent to the Ministry.

The chairman (Mr. Robert Imeson): Did he find we had any so-called slums In Masham?

Dr. Cockcroft: He thought so – in Morton Row, and some of the cottages across the hill.

The Clerk stated that a letter had been sent to the Ministry in response to the slum clearance circular stating that no action was necessary in Masham.

The chairman: It was the same when the Inspector came regarding the area survey. They never sent the chairman or the clerk word, and, to say the least, It is discourteous.

It was agreed that the Medical Officer and the surveyor make the inspection of property required by the Ministry and report at the next meeting.
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon