Sarah Moore Henley in Arden

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Hi

Thomas Moore & Elizabeth Anchor, appear to have had a Son, Thomas Moore, baptised in 1817 ...

1817 Preston Bagot, Baptisms
3rd May, Thomas Son of Thomas and Elizabeth Moore, Preston Bagot, Farmer.

(They even call one child baptised, Martha Moore, likely after the Father's Mother).

1837, 21st Feb'y, Stratford upon Avon, by Licence
Thomas Moore, Bachelor of Preston Bagot and
Sophia Compton, Spinster.
Present as wit:s Joseph Reason ; Eliz. Moore.

1861 Census, Manor House, Preston Bagot.
Thomas Moore, 44, Farmer, Preston Bagot.
Sophia Moore, 44, Farmer's Wife, Stratford upon Avon

Mark

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Two, Elizabeth Moore, registered in 1842, Stratford on Avon, ages only one year difference:-
Sept Qtr, 55 years.
Dec Qtr, 56 years.

The 1842 Deaths look to be:-

Alveston, Warwickshire, is 2.6 miles from Stratford upon Avon

[Worcestershire County C. record]
Alveston, Warwickshire, Burials.
1842 Elizabeth Moore, Alveston, Sept'r 19th, 55 yrs.

The other:-
1842
Elizabeth Moore, Preston Bagot, Nov 21st, 56 yrs.

Probably nee Elizabeth Anchor.

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Other Children Baptised of Charles & Sarah Moore, Labourer.

1840 Charles Moore, abode Preston Bagot. Born 11th June 1840.
1838 Jane Moore, abode Preston Bagot. Bapt. 23rd October.
1836 Mary Moore, abode Preston Bagot, Bapt. at Preston Bagot, 18th December.
1835 Anne Moore, abode Preston Bagot, Bapt. 13th March.
1834 Sarah Moore, abode Rowington, at Rowington, 19th May.
1832 Elizabeth Moore, abode Preston Bagot, Bapt 23rd February.
1831 George Moore, Preston Bagot, Bapt. 9th January.
1829 Thomas Moore, Preston Bagot, Bapt. 28th June.
1827 John Moore, abode Preston Bagot, Bapt. 25th December. Twin Sons.
1827 Charles Moore, abode Preston Bagot, Bapt. 25th December. Twin Sons.

1840 Birth
Registration District: Stratford upon Avon
Born 12th June 1840 at Preston Baggot, Charles Moore, Son of Charles Moore,
The Birth entry says Mother Surname: Moore formerly Bradley,
Registered by Charles Moore, Father, Preston Baggot.

1827, 5th March
Marriage at Aston St Peter and St Paul, Warwickshire
Charles Moore & Sarah Bradeley

Present as wits: Thomas Job[?] ; Lydae Shakespeare or Lydia Shakespeare

1827, Banns, Aston St Peter & St Paul
Charles Moore
Sarah Bradeley
Feb 18th
Feb 25th
Mar 1


Mark

The above was taken from the actual Register images, so it appears Ann Moore, born 1835 had all those brothers' and sisters'.

Not all of them died and had burials, so a big question in my mind, is where did the other survivors go - your ancestor's other Brothers' and Sisters' ?

Perhaps, in one of the Census for one of them will be a clue, or another Cousin or a relative, or not?

Thomas Moore, Bapt. 1829 Preston Bagot and some Moore Notes on Same Census pages

1851 Preston Bagot

Thomas Moore, Serv, U, 20, Farm Labourer, Preston Bagot.

Same page in 1851
George Moore, Serv, U, 20, Farm Lab, Preston Bagot.

1857, Jan 13th Lapworth Parish Church
Thomas Moore, 27, B'r, Carrier, Preston Bagot, Father: Charles Moore, Labourer.
Juliet Benbrook, 19, Sp,r, Joseph Benbrook, Carrier.
Present: William Smith ; Elizabeth Hartwell

Smith that is a name noticed before.

1861 Rowington
Thomas Moore, Head, Mar, 30, Carrier, War'k Preston Bagot.
Juliet Moore, Wife, Mar, 22, War'k Lapworth.

1871 Preston Bagot
Thomas Moore, Head, 41, Carrier, Preston Baggott.
Juliet Moore, Wife, 32, Lapworth.

1881
Thomas Moore, Head, 51, Carrier & Coal Dealer, born N. K.
Juliet Moore, 42, Wife, born Lapworth.
Clara Levens, Friend, Unm, 15, Assistant, Warwick, Warwickshire.

1891 Preston Bagot
Thomas Moore, Head, 61, Carrier, Preston Bagot.
Juliet Moore, Wife, 52, Lapworth.

Probate 1899
Thomas Moore, of Preston Bagot Carrier granted Birmingham to Juliet Moore, Widow.
£931 6s. 6d. [See Probate Calendar listing for dates]

To see the full document and if a Will or an Admin, they cost £1.50 from the HMCTS Probate Wills at gov.uk

On same page as the above Thomas & Juliet Moore in 1891 ...

Walter Moore and family

Another Thomas Moore (same page) ...

1891 Preston Bagot
Manor House
Thomas Moore, Head, Widower, 73, Farmer, Preston Bagot.
Arthur Maurice Moore, Son, M, 42, Farmer Manager, Preston Bagot.

So this other Thomas Moore occupies the Manor House and looks to be the one who married Sophia Compton at Stratford upon Avon in 1837.

There is a book about Preston Bagot and the Manor House Records?

Mark

Added:
1923 Probate
Probate of Juliet Moore of Preston Bagot, Proved Birmingham to Edmund Johnson draper.

To find out if they were Wills or Admin with the Probate and if so, what they say, costs £1.50 each.

[willsy]

Went back to Charles and Sarah's children again and had more luck this time I think

Found a Jane Moor c 1838 with an Elizabeth Mottram c 1832 in Staffordshire 1861, both born Henley in Arden

Elizabeth Moore married Henry Mottram 25 Nov 1856, Nuneaton, father Charles Moore farmer
Mar wits. Thomas Moore ? Hurley...Thomas signed the register as did Elizabeth

Some links for you (just the first 3) first one is 1861 census, childrens births all MMN Moore

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01ts4/

[willsy]

The Jane 1871 I have been looking at is a bit of a mystery

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ts5/

Jane Green c 1838 born Henley in Arden with George Green in Beaudesert; there's some trees but they don't know Jane's surname.

[BushInn1746]

Went back to Charles and Sarah's children again and had more luck this time I think

Found a Jane Moor c 1838 with an Elizabeth Mottram c 1832 in Staffordshire 1861, both born Henley in Arden

Elizabeth Moore married Henry Mottram 25 Nov 1856, Nuneaton, father Charles Moore farmer
Mar wits. Thomas Moore ? Hurley...Thomas signed the register as did Elizabeth

Some links for you (just the first 3) first one is 1861 census, childrens births all MMN Moore

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01ts4/

That looks a good find Willsy for Elizabeth Moore, the 1856 Nuneaton marriage to Henry Mottram, Builder of Tamworth, says Elizabeth Moore, Servant and residence was "Vicarage" and as you say, her Father: Charles Moore, Farmer.
Married by Rob't Savage, Vicar.
Present as witnesses: Thomas Moore and possibly Mary Hurley ; James Green Parish Clerk.

1851 The Vicarage Nuneaton
Emma Savage, Wife, Mar, 43, St James Parish, London.
Savage family ...
Servants ...
Eliza Moore, Serv, U, 20, Cook, born, Warwickshire, Henley in Arden.

Willsy's 1861 Tamworth Census find for,
Elizabeth Mottram, Wife, Mar, 29,
Jane Moor, Visitor, 23, Condition [blank], both born Warwick'e Henley in Arden.

I find the Census "Visitor" are often related or linked to the extended family.

I have checked the Thomas Latham, Uncle in 1871, but it seems he likely married a Mottram, when I found him with his Mother-in Law in 1851.

1871 Tamworth
Henry Mottram, 37, Staffordshire, Tamworth.
Elizabeth Mottram, 39, Warwickshire, Henley in Arden.
and 5 children.
Thomas Latham, Uncle, 56, Widr, Builder, Warwickshire Austrey.

1851 Census, St Thomas Birmingham, 145 Islington
Thomas Latham, Head, Mar, 36, Bricklayer emp 3 men, born Warwickshire Austrey.
Ann Latham, Wife, Mar, 34, Warwickshire, Birmingham.
Charlotte Mottram, Mother in Law, Widow, 69, Stafford'sh, Burton.
Hannah Latham, Sister, U, 21, House Servant, Austrey.
Henry Mottram, Nephew, U, 9, Scholar, Warwickshire, Birm'm

Mark

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At the funeral of Mrs Ann Moore

One of the mourners was named Mrs Moore (Clifford) a niece,

Clifford was Clifford Chambers, Nr Stratford upon Avon.

In the 1911 Census there was only one Moore couple at Clifford Chambers and Clara C. Moore apparently died in 1944, registered Stratford upon Avon. Also in the 1921 Census.

1911, 3 Orchard Side, Clifford Chambers
George Moore, 53, born Selly Oak, Worcestershire.
Clara Cecilia Moore, 53, born Kidderminster.

1891 St George the Martyr
George Moore, Head, M, 31, Baker, Selly Oak, Worcs.
Clara C. Moore, 35, Kidderminster.
George E. Moore, Son, 5, London, Bromley le Row.
Thomas Moore, Son, 3, London Camberwell.

1883 28th Oct'r, Willenhall Parish by Banns
George Moore, 25, Bach'r, Baker, Stepney, London, Father: George Moore, Labourer.
Clara Cecilia Brown, 26, Sp'r, Hoarstone, John Brown, Gardener.
Present wits: John Morris[?] ; Ellen Shiloock or Shilbock or Philoock or Philbock.

1871 Birmingham St Martin
Eleanor Moore, Head, ? , 55, Warks Birmingham.
George W. Brittain, Son, 29, Carpenter, born Warks Birmingham.
Thomas Moore, Son, 16, Labourer, born Preston Bagot.
Elizabeth Moore, Daur, 14, Scholar, born Preston Bagot.
George Moore, Son, 11, born Worcs Selly Oak.

1861 Northfield, Selly Grove
George Moore, Head, 31, Stoker in Metal Works, born Preston Bagot.
Eleanor Moore, Wife, 45, Warks Birmingham.
Thomas Moore, Son, 6, born Preston Bagot.
Elizabeth Moore, Daur, 4, born Preston Bagot.
George Moore, Son, 1, Worcester Northfield.

1854, 29th April Parish of Lapworth
George Moore, full, Bach'r Servant, Lapworth, Father: Charles Moore, Labourer.
Eleanor Brittain, full, Sp'r, Servant, Lapworth, Father: William Brittain, Butcher.
Present wit:s Henry Sanders ; Ann Moore.

The 1854 Marriage confirms he was the Son of Charles Moore, Labourer.

Funeral notices that give a surname, with Mr, Miss, or Mrs, with a town or place, can usually  be very useful to trace wider family.

I'll let you find and search the Census in between the above for possible Moore relatives on Census night?

Mark

[willsy]

Mark

Thanks for carrying on after the Mottrams etc, it was late and I ran out of steam!

[BushInn1746]

Mr T. Smallwood (Stratford), in the funeral notice, seems to be:-

Thomas Smallwood of Stratford upon Avon, born about 1861 Henley in Arden (some Census years Thomas Smallwood born Wootton Wawen).

By 1921 Thomas Smallwood, was married.

The Census and the GRO Index suggest that Thomas Smallwood, was actually born Joseph Thomas Waring, in 1861. Birth Certificate - Not Seen.

His Mother, Fanny Waring married Thomas Smallwood, in 1863.

1901
Thomas Smallwood, 39, Builder, Henley in Arden.
Fanny Smallwood, Mother, Wid, 63, Henley in Arden.
Louisa Smallwood, Niece, 12, Henley in Arden.

1891
Fanny Smallwood, Head, Wid, 53, Henley in Arden.
Thomas Smallwood, Son, 29, Wootton Wawen.
Edward Smallwood, Son, 22, Henley in Arden.
Alice Smallwood, Daur, 15, N. K.
Mary Walton, Boarder, 81, [Birthplace blank].

In 1881
Lucy Smallwood, Head, W, 73, Shoe Maker, Henley in Arden.
Mary Smallwood, Daur, U, 41, Henley in Arden.
Thomas Smallwood, Grandson, U, 19, Joiner App, born Henley in Arden.
George Smallwood, 17, Joiner App, Henley in Arden.
Betty Harris, Lodger, W, 73, born Henley in Arden. 

1871
Thomas Smallwood, 36, Cordwainer, Wootton Wawen.
Fanny Smallwood, 33, Wootton Wawen.
Joseph T. Waring, Son, 9, Census all children born Wootton Wawen.
George Smallwood, Son, 7,
Harry Smallwood, Son, 4,
E Smallwood, Son, 2, Wootton Wawen.

Notes:-
Louisa Smallwood in 1901 Census Birthplace?? Or born 1888 Annie Louisa Smallwood, Mother M.S. Sherrington ?

1864 George Smallwood, Mother M.S. Waring.

1839 Mary Smallwood born, Mother's M.S. Walton. Stratford upon Avon Registration District.

Can't see if, or how Moore, fit in, but posted anyway because you may come across one of these surnames again in the future.

Mark