Robinson Family Liverpool Lancashire Assistance.

[Vintrus]

Hi all
I am trying to do some research on an ancestor of mine, John Henry Robinson, born Liverpool
Lancashire United Kingdom. Anyway, here is what I have.

John Henry Robinson  26 or 28 May 1868 to 1 Dec 1931. Died Devonport, Tasmania, Australia. Migrated to Australia possibly at the age of 14. My research so far has indicated he was 1 of 6 children.
Lydia Elizabeth Robinson   24 February 1866  - 10 December 1867
Lilian Robinson 21 February 1869 - 1870
Joseph Robinson      (unknown what happent to him )
William Robinson 8 March 1872      (unknown what happened to him )
Anne Robinson 8 March 1873  (unknown what happened to her )

Most Baptised  or Christened at either  Bevington Saint Alban  or Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire.

The parents were listed as William and Jane Robinson. My research has indicated that Jane’s Maiden name may have been Bolton  and marriage date 24 December 1865 at St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire.

I think William was born in Omrskirk Lancashire in 1842,  parents where another William and Elizabeth unknown maiden name.

That’s about all I can find. The entire tree thus far has been put on Familysearch.

Can anybody help me with more information please?

[Radcliff]

GRO Births

Lydia Elizabeth Robinson, mothers maiden name Smith,West Derby and Toxteth M 1866,
her baptism gives her father as William a joiner and mother Jane abode Fairfield,

John Henry Robinson, mothers maiden name Bolton, West Derby and Toxteth Park, S   1868 what documentation do you have stating this is one family, are they altogether in a census record , or family bible,  John Henry's father appears to be a Carter on his sons baptism,  he has an older brother William baptised March 3rd 1867 His birth possibly William ROBINSON mother Bolton West Derby and Toxteth Park M 1867,
Joseph Robinson mother Bolton birth registered West Derby and Toxteth Park M 1870, these three boys are with their parents in 1871 ,

William and Jane possibly have another baby a little girl Annie Robinson mother Bolton West Derby and Toxteth Park D 1874, In 1881 Williams wife is Elizabeth living in Kirkdale

[Neale1961]

Hello Vintrus and Welcome to RootsChat

I wonder if you have the correct family in Liverpool. You are dealing with a rather common name.
You haven’t said where your information about John's parents has come from?

John Robinson married Emily Caroline Stephens in 1890 at Port Frederick Tasmania
He is recorded as John Robinson, full age, bachelor, plasterer. He signs John Henry Robinson
There is no mention of his parents on the marriage certificate.
How do you know who his parents were?

[Neale1961]

Obituary for John Henry Robinson says he came to Australia about age 14 with his parents.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/67894095?searchTerm=%22John%20RObinson%22

I think you need to search for shipping records for the family.


There is this one -
"Somersetshire” Sailed Dec 1879
Arrival 17 Feb 1880 Launceston onboard “Somersetshire”

William Robinson 45  church of England, no education, Native place Liverpool
Margaret Robinson 35
John 11
Henry 6
Margaret 4
Sarah 2
George 9 mths
Anne (by 1st wife) 13

Passage paid for by Mary P..rd?

Ann, age 13 is recorded as a child from William's first wife.

[Neale1961]

This looks to be the birth registrations and baptisms of the younger Robinson children on the passenger list

ROBINSON, GEORGE       Mother - CHAPMAN 
GRO Reference: 1879  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 172
George Robinson baptism Liverpool St Peters 3 Aug 1879
Son of William (labourer) and Margaret Robinson

ROBINSON, SARAH       Mother - CHAPMAN 
GRO Reference: 1877  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 188
baptism Liverpool St Peters 31 July 1877
Daughter of William (labourer) and Margaret Robinson. Gerard Street


ROBINSON, MARGARET       Mother - CHAPMAN 
GRO Reference: 1875  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 187
Bapt Liverpool St Peters 19 Mar 1876, born 2 Nov 1875
Daughter of William (labourer) and Margaret Robinson. Gerard Street


ROBINSON, HENRY       Mother - CHAPMAN 
GRO Reference: 1873  S Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 197
Bapt Liverpool St Peters 17 Aug 1873
Son of William (Porter) and Margaret Robinson. Gerard Street


MARRIAGE
 19 March 1876 Liverpool
William Robinson 39 Widower, carter, Gerard Street. Father – John Robinson coachmaker
Margaret Chapman 32 spinster, Gerard Street. Father – Henry Chapman Customs officer


William and Margaret had another child – this time born in Launceston, Tasmania in 1885
Mary Robinson born 31 May 1885
Father William Henry Robinson labourer
Mother Margaret Sarah Robinson formerly Chapman
Both bride and groom sign with X
Witnesses – Henry Chapman and Sarah Ann Cavanagh


EDIT to add
Looks like there was another child Sarah Jane born in 1871 and died in 1872 Liverpool.

[maddys52]

I think the family by Neale looks very likely.

There are some interesting items on trove relating to William and Margaret ROBINSON eg:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/90544146 (18 Oct 1884)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/199534431 (3 Apr 1886)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/153494807 (1896 death of William)
[death certificate: William Henry ROBINSON, died 12 Feb 1896 aged 65, labourer, born England]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/153943659  (1903 death of son Henry)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/35570842 (1903 death of Margaret )
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/35570892 (funeral notice Margaret)

In the funeral notice and item about Margaret's death it notes son-in-law "S CLARKE" and "A G CLARK", most likely Sterling George CLARKE who married Sarah ROBINSON 14 May 1902.

[Neale1961]

William Henry ROBINSON
Died 12 Feb 1896 Launceston Hospital
Male 65 yrs, born England
Labourer
Brights disease (Dr. Charles parker)


Margaret Sarah ROBINSON
Died 9 Nov 1903
23 Laura St Launceston
Epileptic fit.

[Neale1961]

It is difficult to see the family who emigrated to Tasmania in the 1871 census
Margaret Chapman was with William well before they married, so this might be them in 1871.

1871 census Liverpool, St Anne, Lower myrtle street
Wm Robinson head 35 labourer born Liverpool
Margaret wife 27 born Liverpool
Mary Ellen 16 daughter born Liverpool
Hannah 6 daughter born Liverpool
John 4 son born Liverpool

Maybe someone else will have more success.

[Neale1961]

Is this the Robinson family you were looking at?  ……….. I’m not sure it is correct.

William Robinson
Bapt March 1867 Bevington Liverpool
Son of William (carter) and Jane. Opie Street

John Henry Robinson
Baptism 21 June 1868 (born 28 May) St Alban Bevington Liverpool
Son of William (carter) and Jane. Opie Street

Joseph Robinson Bevington Liverpool
Bapt Jan 1870
Son of William (carter) and Jane. Conway street

Mother’s Maiden name is BOLTON on the birth registrations

That family is living in Conway street in the 1871 census Everton.

William Robinson married Jane Bolton in 1865 Liverpool
Bride and groom both signed their name.
William’s father is named William – a butcher

Details on this marriage don’t tally with the marriage for William Henry Robinson to Margaret Chapman.