Robinson Family Liverpool Lancashire Assistance.

[Neale1961]

George Robinson birth registration in 1838 Liverpool gives mother’s name as LINNACRE

Ann Jane Robinson birth registration in 1844 Liverpool gives mother’s name as LINAERS.

This leads to the marriage in Liverpool, St. Marks
1 May 1825
John ROBINSON to Ellen LINECAR
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXWR-TNY?lang=en

[AlanBoyd]

Following on from reply #26, here is Mary Robinson's committal; I can't find anything about the actual trial.

 21 October 1844: Liverpool Albion

Mary Robinson was brought up, at the same time, on a charge of having robbed Thomas Hall, a ship-carpenter, of upwards of £9. 10s. The complainant stated, that he slept on board the brig Wonder, at present lying in the George's Dock, and that on Thursday last he received the amount of his wages in nine sovereigns, two crowns, and three half-crowns. He put the money in a green cotton purse, which he placed in his watch fob; and, about ten o'clock the same night, he met the prisoner, whom he asked to show him the way to George's Dock. She took him to different places, until he became perfectly fatigued, and, at length, she escorted him to a house in Union-court, Banastre-street, where he was robbed of every shilling in his possession. The prisoner was fully committed for trial.

[AlanBoyd]

Scene of the crime: mid-19th century town plan showing Banastre Street and Union Court.

For any Liverpool enthusiasts: move the slider to reveal the modern map (Banastre Street is buried under Leeds Street).

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=19.3&lat=53.41309&lon=-2.98733&layers=117746212&b=osm&o=100

[Vintrus]

Wow this is all incredible info thank you so much from the bottom of my heart.

[Neale1961]

Adding a bit more for the extended Robinson family in Tasmania ………

George ROBINSON married Ann DILWORTH 19 Aug 1861 Launceston – about 12 children born
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q279-QGVL?lang=en


Ann Jane ROBINSON married John Laurence WENN on 7th Oct 1870 at the home of Mrs Pond in Launceston  – abt 12 children
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q279-7GHN?lang=en

[Neale1961]

Further family information for
Ellen LINECAR who married John ROBINSON in 1825 ....................


Baptisms in Liverpool : Our Lady and St Nicholas
•   Mary Linnacre born 24 Jan 1794
Daughter of Henry Linnacre (carter) and Ellen nee Dunn. Abode Circus Street

•   William Linaker born 11 Sept 1798
Son of Henry Linaker (labourer) and Ellen nee Dunn. Abode Circus Street

•   Ellen Linekar born 15 Apr 1801; baptised 24 May 1801
Daughter of Henry Linekar (labourer) and Ellen, nee Dunn. Abode Circus Street

•   Mary Linekar born 28 Apr 1803
Daughter of Henry Linekar (labourer) and Ellen, nee Dunn. Abode Circus Street

•   Henry Linekar born 21 Dec 1808
Son of Henry Linekar (labourer) and Ellen, nee Dunn. Abode Circus Street

•   Mary Linekar born 6 Nov 1812
Daughter of Henry Linekar (labourer) and Ellen, nee Dunn. Abode Circus Street


MARRIAGE
28 Dec 1790 Liverpool : St John the Baptist
Henry LINAKER labourer of Liverpool to Ellen DUNN spinster of Liverpool
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNMJ-K5W?lang=en


BURIAL 10 June 1830
Henry LINACRE, age 68. Abode Circus Street.
Necropolis Low Hill, Everton

BURIAL 29 Apr 1832
Ellen LINACRE (nee Dunn) age 65. Abode Circus Street
Cause of death – Hooping cough
Necropolis Low Hill, Everton. Grave 6272

Source - FreeREG

[Neale1961]

The birth registrations of the children born to William Robinson’s first wife, show their mother’s maiden name was ROONEY.
I haven’t found a marriage for William Robinson to a Rooney in the Liverpool area. Rooney sounds Irish, and interestingly William’s second wife, Margaret Chapman came from Irish parents.
The Robinson family seem to be difficult to find in the 1861 census. I have had no luck.
 
Apart from the 2 daughters - Mary Ellen born in 1854 and Ann born in 1865, there were 4 sons born to this first marriage, who all appear to have died in infancy or early childhood.
William Robinson born 1856,
Henry Robinson born 1858,
James Robinson 1860,
George Robinson 1862.

I think you would need to purchase the birth certificate of one of the children, to get the Christian name of the mother. Then from there it might be easier to find a marriage, and her death.

[Neale1961]

I finally found the missing family member  - Henry Robinson
His passage to Tasmania was also paid for by John Pond . £16
Henry Robinson, 28, labourer from Liverpool arrived 31 Oct 1861 onboard “Prince of the Seas”

Death for him in Launceston on 6 Jan 1891
Henry Robinson born in England, 62 years, labourer.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/39561673?searchTerm=%22Henry%20Robinson%22

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After some head scratching, I now think that Henry was the oldest son. His baptism was in 1829 with the name William Henry, but he was known as Henry or at times Henry William.

Your direct ancestor was next and was baptised in 1830 as William, but sometimes appears on records as William Henry.

How is that for confusing.

Samuel baptised in 1832 died of measles  at 1yr 5 months. His burial was 15 April 1834 at Liverpool necropolis. Grave 5761.

Then George was the youngest boy born in 1838.

Mary’s convict record lists her brothers in age order- Henry, William and George

[Neale1961]

The best place for questions is here on this thread, rather than PM. This allows multiple people to help.

You wrote:-

there are 4 mystery's that have perplexed
1 Robinson that came John Williams father the servant aged 14? Ann Jane ROBINSON  is she a relation or is the last name a coincidence
what happened to John Henry's brother George and Henry who traveled with him and Sarah I think I may hay have found Marriage for her in New Norfolk Tasmania
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/Record/NamesIndex/916438
and I cant seem to find what happened to Annie aka Hannah his Half Sister.

Ann Jane ROBINSON  born 1844 Liverpool is the youngest child of John ROBINSON and Ellen LINECAR
(see reply #27)


Re - Sarah ROBINSON b.1877 Liverpool, daughter of William Robinson and Margaret Chapman.
(See reply #5 by maddys52)
Marriage in Longford on 14 May 1902 to Sterling George CLARKE
I can see she died in 1963 Victoria with the married name Sarah CLARKE
Deaths Registration number13996 / 1963
Family name: CLARKE
Given name(s) Sarah
Place of event: Camberwell East, Australia
Mother's name Margaret CHAPMAN
Father's Name: ROBINSON William Henry


Re -
George ROBINSON b 1879 Liverpool, son of William Robinson and Margaret Chapman
Henry ROBINSON b. 1873 Liverpool, son of William Robinson and Margaret Chapman
I haven’t gone looking for them at this stage. If you don’t find them in Tasmania the next place would be to look on the mainland – Vic, NSW, etc.

Re -
Ann ROBINSON born 1865 Liverpool, daughter of William Robinson and Wife Rooney.
Maybe the death in Launceston in 1908? It is on the index, but the record is not online yet, so not certain if it is correct for that Ann. If it is not her, look further to the mainland