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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 26 April 25 21:20 BST (UK) »
Those witness records are hard to read, but I think one refers to a woman sadly unnamed who wasn’t his wife.


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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #64 on: Saturday 26 April 25 21:28 BST (UK) »
Please let us know when you get the details.
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« Reply #65 on: Saturday 26 April 25 21:34 BST (UK) »
Those witness records are hard to read, but I think one refers to a woman sadly unnamed who wasn’t his wife.

That was my impression too, but also found them difficult to read.
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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #66 on: Saturday 26 April 25 21:55 BST (UK) »
This is probably not related but there is this entry in 1911 in Wakefield prison.
The occupation matches.

Charles Clark, 25, widower, fitter, engineer, London S.Kensington

In 1907 a Charles Clark, 22, Engineer, is in wormwood scrubs,  Thomas George Clark of Chelsea is said to be a relative.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/8b0e389f-f636-42df-96b7-78f214a44080

More detail -this Charles is of “superior education”

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/70711895-a24c-439e-8c76-c42051f1e62e



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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #67 on: Sunday 27 April 25 07:19 BST (UK) »
In my opinion I would delve a bit more into the Weare family,  was Charles at one time shown as adopted, sometimes I have seen that word but it referred to a son in law.

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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #68 on: Sunday 27 April 25 07:40 BST (UK) »
Yes he was adopted son in 1901 age 11 and visitor in 1891 age 1.  If one of the Weare children was his mother why doesn’t he have that surname  :-\.

Visitor from where and from whome that is the question, who sent him to that family aged 1. 

The info from the 1899 birth we are waiting on is the next crucial step to see where that takes us.



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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #69 on: Sunday 27 April 25 16:22 BST (UK) »
My, you have all been so busy on my behalf, thank you.

I have had a reply from the person with George Lionel, Lisle Nesbit Clarke in there tree….Charles is no relation. Having said that, they have no idea where the Nesbit name comes from.

I am having quite a busy weekend with family ( The mince and mushroom pie was lovely ) They have come from Scotland, to take me to a hospital appointment,
So please forgive me, for not replying to your findings.

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I could stand it no longer, so I have got a digital copy of the birth certificate .
Here goes

November 2nd 1889
87 St John’s Road. Charles Nesbit/ Boy/Father Charles Clark/ Mother Lilian Clark/
Formally Nesbit / Fathers Occupation Amalgamated Gold Mining Company /Registered by mother / 20th November 1889.

I jut hope this is the right guy, but don’t know where Ralph comes into it.

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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 27 April 25 21:35 BST (UK) »
87 St John’s Road is a Midwife

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/d11de998-778b-4fab-be3b-a50c36bcbb0c

In 1891 at that address with Mrs Emma Davy the “sick midwife” there are two women one of whom has recently given birth, (a boy who doesn’t have a name yet) and also a 5mth old boy.
How long did women stay at the midwife’s after giving birth then?  A couple of weeks?  There are 18 days between the birth of Charles Nesbitt Clarke & the registration. That would have cost some money even if “reasonable rates”

Does it say what position at the Gold Mining Company?
In the 1891 the only likely ones in the London area are secretaries.  As in “Secretary, Gold Mining Company “

None of them are a Charles Clarke. 
I cannot find anyone who fits for Lilian Nesbitt/Clarke in 1881 or 1891 . I don’t see a death.
Now we have another mystery!


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Re: Marriage certificates
« Reply #71 on: Monday 28 April 25 06:17 BST (UK) »
Nothing positive to add, but a few thoughts concerning Nellie Eastham down as his sister as nok in 1914 on enlistment.

This was after he married, maybe it was rocky in 1914. The address was written at bottom for Nellie, likely included first, then crossed through, maybe at a later date.

The Eastham mother & brother was alive, their father died 1887. So why Nellie...possibly she was not a sister, but the 'other woman' given in the witness notes.. Given as sister to disguise the fact? Who knows....but he must have wanted her to know if anything happened to him.

Looked at Weare and nee Seabrook family not finding a connection so far....
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