John James DEARLOVE

[judb]

Is that an Ancestry transcription?  There is no transcription with the image from the Tasmanian source, which as shown gives the female name as Maria Evans and I cannot see any further suitable records for a Maria Evans. The nearest name on the list for the ship Duke of Cornwall is Mary E(a)gen and then there's the Mary Evans who arrived on the Anna Maria who has some records and then and seems to have married William BRADBURY in May 1853.

I feel that the marriage with John Dearlove, whoever the woman is, didn't take place.

Judith

[sparrett]

Hi.
Maybe Buttons is referring to this error on the Tasmanian Source.
The index shows her name Mary EGAN.

https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qf=NI_INDEX%09Record+type%09Marriage+Permissions%09Marriage+Permissions&qu=john&qu=dearlove

But upon opening the digitised record we see- Clearly EVANS

[judb]

Thanks, Sue.  No wonder I couldn't find "Mary Evans" if it's indexed under "Egan" ! 

Can anyone figure out what the illegible notation is on that permissions record?  Proabably no help anyway!

Judith

[sparrett]

As mentioned by Neale in Reply#14, one Mary/Maria EGAN/EAGAN who arrived per Duke of Cornwall died 11 Sept 1852.

Here is a link with a bit more information about her.

https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/eagan/mary/146093

Sue

[sparrett]

Anyhow, as stated DEARLOVE did not marry either woman.

Mary EVANS was, after her marriage to BRADBURY, recommended for Absolute Pardon in 1855 and it was approved 6/9/1856.

All not much help in what became of John DEARLOVE

Sue

[Christine Cramer]

Yes, it's a mystery what became of him and I don't think it is possible to know.  I've searched for deaths under Dearlove without any success and the closest one I could find is the following:

Name    John James
Death Age    79
Birth Date    abt 1819
Death Date    17 Jan. 1898
Death Place    Hobart, Tasmania
Registration Date    1898
Registration Place    Hobart, Australia
Registration Number    115

This man was buried in a pauper's grave in the Cornelian Bay cemetery in Hobart.  The 19th century Tasmanian death certificates are very sparse with no parents named and only perhaps place of birth.  Being a pauper, the informant probably wouldn't have known anyway.

[Neale1961]

The most likely scenario is that once he had his conditional pardon, he headed off to the gold fields. Many convicts took this route, and many changed their names.

[Greaves]

I always figured that finding any information about John James was a bot of a long shot, but thought it worth seeking the expertise of some of the inhabitants of this board.

I have had similar failure with another transported relative, namely Charles GAME (b 1802) and transported in 1835 on board the Norfolk.

Finding the demise of both the above is unlikely, but one has to try.

[Neale1961]

Charles Game per Norfolk

Ticket of Leave 1839
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/8747959?searchTerm=%E2%80%9CCharles%2520Game%E2%80%9D%2520AND%2520Norfolk


Cert. of Freedom 1841
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2955712?searchTerm=%E2%80%9CCharles%2520Game%E2%80%9D%2520AND%2520Norfolk