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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 22 April 25 13:21 BST (UK) »
Marriage in London, June 1884.


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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 03:25 BST (UK) »
Looking at the family, it is complicated isn't it!

If I'm correct, the 2 children, Herbert William and Beatrice Elizabeth were born long before the 1884 marriage, in 1875 and 1877. They have the surname WILSON, and their mother is called "Honoria Clara WILSON formerly BELL" and father Thomas WILSON on Herbert's birth certificate (on a Public Image on Ancestry). Though the mother was born Rebecca Hartley WOOL - who married Samuel Alexander PARK and then Harry Thompson in 1895. And appears with son Herbert and daughter Beatrice in 1891 as Clara PARK (widow).

"Honoria Clara WILSON" is a vocalist. This sounds like a stage name - there are a few mentions in newspapers of vocalist Miss Clara WILSON around the 1870s, but hard to know if this is the same woman.

I'm not sure that I would assume Samuel Alexander PARK was the biological father of Herbert and Beatrice. Herbert is in the 1881 census as Herbert W WILSON (with Rebecca's sister Rosina and family). And Beatrice is in the 1881 census as Beatrice Elizabeth WILSON (with the LUCKIE family).


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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 13:07 BST (UK) »
Looking at the family, it is complicated isn't it!

If I'm correct, the 2 children, Herbert William and Beatrice Elizabeth were born long before the 1884 marriage, in 1875 and 1877. They have the surname WILSON, and their mother is called "Honoria Clara WILSON formerly BELL" and father Thomas WILSON on Herbert's birth certificate (on a Public Image on Ancestry). Though the mother was born Rebecca Hartley WOOL - who married Samuel Alexander PARK and then Harry Thompson in 1895. And appears with son Herbert and daughter Beatrice in 1891 as Clara PARK (widow).

"Honoria Clara WILSON" is a vocalist. This sounds like a stage name - there are a few mentions in newspapers of vocalist Miss Clara WILSON around the 1870s, but hard to know if this is the same woman.

I'm not sure that I would assume Samuel Alexander PARK was the biological father of Herbert and Beatrice. Herbert is in the 1881 census as Herbert W WILSON (with Rebecca's sister Rosina and family). And Beatrice is in the 1881 census as Beatrice Elizabeth WILSON (with the LUCKIE family).

Do you have any links to the newspaper articles mentioning vocalist Miss Clara Wilson?

It is very complicated.  There was a Thomas Wilson, age 28, born in West Linton, Peebleshire, Scotland, on the 1861 census onboard the Ardent, a Royal Navy ship in Buenos Aires, South America, working as an engineer under chief engineer George Park, Samuel Park's father.  No information that he was ever married to Rebecca, and other than that census I couldn't find any information about him.

I can believe that Rebecca really was a vocalist, as she claims on her children's birth certificates.  It was very odd for Samuel Park to just disappear immediately after their marriage and never appear with them again, the two children even taking his name, and Harry Thompson was listed as a lodger on censuses before marrying Rebecca after Samuel Park's death in 1994, which presumably they learnt about.  Harry Thompson in one newspaper article is described as a Sailor.

It does sound as though Samuel Park worked on ships around the far east and Australia, never as a Captain or even 1st Mate in spite of being qualified with his Masters Certificate.  The Wing Sang, aboard which he died in 1994, was apparently a little tea clipper and he was 2nd Mate.

If I knew more about Thomas Wilson, I could see if any DNA matches link to the paper trail.  Nothing on Samuel Park DNA match wise, and his extended family tree seems to show a lot of Scottish upper middle class to aristocracy, though his own parents seemed to die in relative poverty, retired in Plymouth, England.

It does look as though Thomas Wilson knew Samuel Park.  He definitely knew his father.  I actually wonder if Thomas Wilson had died, maybe lost at sea, and Samuel Park knew him, or of him through his father, and knew this so suggested to Rebecca to use his name on her son Herbert's birth certificate.  Thomas Wilson would have been 22 years older than Rebecca.  The Ardent was in Buenos Aires for some sort of wartime purpose, the Royal Navy was about fighting so loss of life would have been more likely than in the Merchant Navy.

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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 April 25 05:31 BST (UK) »
Here are some of the mentions of Clara WILSON, vocalist.

However, looking again today, I see that there is mention of Clara WILSON performing in 1863 with presumably father William WILSON. Most likely this family in Islington in 1861:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2M2-J7PV?lang=en
(father William WILSON is a "teacher and composer of music")

So again, unsure whether any of these newspaper items would be "your" Clara WILSON.

Saturday,  Apr. 18, 1863
Publication: Islington Gazette


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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 April 25 05:35 BST (UK) »
Some others:

Saturday,  Feb. 12, 1870
Publication: Cheshire Observer

Wednesday,  Apr. 16, 1873
Publication: Hampshire/Portsmouth Telegraph

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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 24 April 25 05:40 BST (UK) »
Sunday,  Oct. 17, 1875
Publication: The Era

Thursday,  Sept. 27, 1877
Publication: Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette

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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 24 April 25 05:57 BST (UK) »
I can only see the image of the birth certificate of Herbert William Bell WILSON (1875) which names his father Thomas WILSON, but has no occupation given (mother Honoria Clara WILSON formerly BELL, vocalist). Does the birth certificate of Beatrice Elizabeth give any further details? What makes you think Thomas WILSON was a mariner? Unfortunately again, it is a very common name.

Her address on the birth certificate is 27 Great Coram St. This seems to be furnished apartments.

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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 24 April 25 07:33 BST (UK) »
Birth certificate of Beatrice.


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Re: Samuel Alexander Park 1851-1894.
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 24 April 25 07:39 BST (UK) »
Birth certificate of Herbert.