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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:01 BST (UK) »
Death notice in the Scotsman recorded Stanley's parents as the late Mr & Mrs J. W. D. Young, 95 Harrison Road, Edinburgh. He was apparently a laundry proprietor (likely Braid Laundry). There was a John W. D. Young at 95 Harrison Road in 1927. A Mrs Elizabeth Young of 95 Harrison Road died in 1950. So, marriage:

YOUNG
JOHN WILLIAM DU(...)

BRYCE
ELIZABETH

1899
698 / A / 12
Ratho

giving two possible birth entries (perhaps a later child named after an infant death):

YOUNG
JOHN WILLIAM DU

DUNLOP

M
1874
698 / A / 12
Ratho


YOUNG
JOHN WILLIAM DU

DUNLOP

M
1871
698 / A / 16
Ratho

Are this Young group red herrings, perhaps?

Death at 43 Durham Terrace
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:06 BST (UK) »
NameJames Anderson Young
GenderMaleBirth  Date10 Nov 1915
Birth Place Dundas, Ontario, Canada
Legitimacy Y
FatherJohn Young
MotherMargaret Anderson

John Young was a soldier 33 Battery CFA Militia Kingston


Incoming passenger lists.

NameJames Anderson Young
Arrival Age44 Birth Date10 Nov 1915 Port of Departure Durban, South Africa
Arrival Date 9 Sep 1960 Port of Arrival Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage Durban; East London; Port Elizabeth; Cape Town and Las Palmas Ship NameCarnarvon CastleShipping Line Union-Castle Mail Steamship Company Ltd Official Number1726/01

Great find! Not sure how to go about getting certificates etc but will give it some thought.

As the marriage only took place on 30 Sept 1915 she must have been heavily pregnant by the birth on 10 November.
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:09 BST (UK) »
Scotland Death Index

NameMr James Anderson Young
GenderMale Age 87
Birth Date1916
Last ResidencePeebles, Peeblesshire, Scotland Postal Code DistrictEh45
Death Date10 Apr 2003

Thanks for flagging this.  Unfortunately there are plenty of 'Anderson' and 'Young' in the borders but worth checking out when I can get to the ScotlandPeople Centre.  I'll need to make a list!  ;D
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:11 BST (UK) »
Apologies for not reading your previous thread!

I was wondering if this could mean that Margaret and John Walter Young had a child...


"Dependent: Wm Anderson (F in L) Guardian"
Excited by that and wonder if it is the James Young that Wilcoxon found
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie


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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:17 BST (UK) »
I wonder if John Walter Young (aka Walter John Jeanes) could have remarried after Margaret's death in 1917? If he did and had children, one of them would be a candidate for Jessie's nephew. The problem is where did he go after he returned from Canada? I see in his military files that the intended place (after discharge) was 49 Falcon Gardens, Edinburgh. Is there any evidence of him in Scotland after his discharge? I know he wouldn't be her true nephew, but..


I don't have access to Ancestry, have you checked a James Anderson Young, born in Ontario in the  "Ontario, Canada Births, 1832-1917 Birth, baptism & christening" collection? (narrowing down the DOB it seems he was born in 1915)

Maybe he is the reason why Margaret returned to Scotland and why her father was his guardian.

Possible death

YOUNG
JAMES ANDERSON
87
ANDERSON
M
2003
801 / 118

I suppose I've found him first  ;D but wilcoxon found his details. I'm in Brazil, English is not my native language and I don't have access to most UK records.
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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:29 BST (UK) »
Sorry if I missed that PatLac.  So much information to work through.  I should be more organised  :-[

I'm envious of you all who can work through information methodically.  However, please keep these thoughts/finds coming  :)
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Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:31 BST (UK) »
Haha no worries, I'm more obsessed than methodical  :o
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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:52 BST (UK) »
From Ancestry - Births County of Dundas/Division Mountain 1915 Birth registration for James Anderson Young so they definitely had a child soon after marriage.

What great people you all are  ;D



Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 26 April 25 14:56 BST (UK) »
So... he is Jessie Sudgen's nephew who was the informant of her death. How exciting  :D

Now I want to know what happened to John Walter Young  ;D
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