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Offline KitCarson

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Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« on: Sunday 20 April 25 09:55 BST (UK) »
Once again I'm looking for some help with this Anderson family please.  I am more than happy to purchase records, if any are found.

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As mentioned in #5 of this thread, the eldest child of William and Mary was Jessie born around 1880-1946.  The query is really about who has signed their name and was present at her death. 

Added:  I've just noticed that Jessie is recorded at her death as aged 56 when she should in fact be 66.

I have Jessie in the 1881, 1891 & 1911 census.  Can’t find her in the 1901 or the 1921 in Scotland or England.

On 1st June 1910 at 21 Lothian Road, Edinburgh she married Wright Sugden 1882-1924.  He was born Salford, Manchester but appears to have then moved to London as a child.  In the 1911c, he is lodging or renting with a family called Reynolds in West Hampstead and shown as married.  Jessie is at her parent’s home at 49 Falcon Gardens, Morningside, Edinburgh and shown as married under 1 year.

There is a WW1 Medal Card for Wright on Ancestry, but I can’t find any other records.  Wright died on 23rd January 1924 at the Hospital of St John & St Elizabeth in London aged 41.  CoD 1. Lobar pneumonia 7 days 2. Heart Failure 2 days.  Usual address is 22 Achilles Rd, West Hampstead.  Present at the death is a G Anderson of 53 Mill Lane, West Hampstead.  I have no idea if that was a medical person or possibly one of Jessie’s side.

The 1935 Evaluation Roll has Jessie as a Grocer with an address of 85 Albert Street, Leith, Edinburgh.

She died 2nd April 1946 at 53 Durham Square, Portobello.  Present was a Mr Young, Nephew of the same address.

Could this be a child of sister Margaret and her husband 'John Walter Young' whom you found out so much about in the thread.  I can’t find a likely birth in Scotland/England/Ontario but maybe someone else will have better luck.

Margaret may have been looking after a child in Edinburgh whilst her husband was serving in WW1 and I noted in the Army paperwork that he sent money to his Father in Law William Anderson.  Was that to support a wife and child?

There is always the possibility that the nephew was from Jessie’s husband’s side I suppose.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kit
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 April 25 17:03 BST (UK) »
Death notice in newspaper only mentions two sisters, Mary and Jean, also of 53 Durham Square, Portobello.

Was there anyhing of note in the Register of Corrected Entries?
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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 April 25 17:14 BST (UK) »
The Scotsman of 28/1/1924 has an entry for the death of Wright Sugden at a nursing home in London. It notes he was the son-in-law of a William Anderson, 49 Falcon Gardens, Edinburgh.
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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 April 25 21:47 BST (UK) »
Are Electoral Registers available for that address for 1946
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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 April 25 22:33 BST (UK) »
Death notice in newspaper only mentions two sisters, Mary and Jean, also of 53 Durham Square, Portobello.

Was there anyhing of note in the Register of Corrected Entries?
I have no idea how to access that but it might be something to do with the initial issue I had when ordering the image on the website.  It came up with a completely different page and I then had to submit a request for the correct one.  How do I go about getting that?
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 April 25 22:34 BST (UK) »
Are Electoral Registers available for that address for 1946
As far as the website goes, there is only access to 1940 and Jessie wasn't on that only the 1935.

Edited:  I only accessed the Valuation Rolls.  Not sure how to look at the Electoral Registers.  Is that also via ScotlandsPeople, or another source.
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 April 25 22:38 BST (UK) »
The Scotsman of 28/1/1924 has an entry for the death of Wright Sugden at a nursing home in London. It notes he was the son-in-law of a William Anderson, 49 Falcon Gardens, Edinburgh.
I was given that snippet of info from a kind person who was researching the family because they thought the Mother, Mary Scott (1854-1920) was their kin.  That wasn't the case but they passed on the research they had.  Kit
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 April 25 23:05 BST (UK) »
I'm looking to get Jessie's Will but will have to book a slot at Register House, Princes St/Waterloo Place which is only 5 minutes from my work.  Can I access the Register of Corrected Entries at the same time I wonder?

Thank you so much for the information on Mary and Jean.  So, they were at the same address in 1946.

Mary died 15 May 1955 at Leith Hospital.  Jean was married to James Kirk Wilkie, who was the informant on Mary's death.  He may have died in Cuckfield, Sussex in 1968.  I don't yet have a death for Jean.  It's a work in progress.

The property (on google street map) doesn't look that big to accommodate all of those people in 1946 to be honest.  Jessie, Jean and husband James, Mary and this 'Mr Young'?
Rimmer/Appleton/Ashcroft: St Helens, Lancs // Cul(le)y:St Helens & Little Bolton // Stott: Huyton Quarry & Sutton, Lancs
Carson:Belfast? & St Helens // Kelly:Mullingar, West Meath? & St Helens // Ronan: Ferns, Wexford & St Helens // Daley:Oranmore & Athenry, Co Galway //
Cunningham: Heworth, Gateshead & Widnes & St Helens, originating Ireland
Edgar: Bellie, Moray // Anderson: Selkirk // Rutherford: Hobkirk, Roxburghshire //
Stewart: Angus // Watson: Moray & Jamaica // Watt: Cairnie

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Re: Who is the Nephew of Jessie Sugden nee Anderson?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 April 25 23:13 BST (UK) »
I have been thinking Mr Young might be J. F. A. Young

So then I thought the F might be Forsyth (as per the grandfather) and A might be for Anderson.
However it hasn’t helped.