Place name Co Leitrim

[shanreagh]

Bearing in mind that this name, Mary Brannen, was written in Scotland I wonder about accents etc.

For instance someone has written 'Ireland' above Leitrim, not sure if it was an annotating mark for the census or someone's idea of what the name was. I think the former as it does not look like Ireland but it does look like Leitrim. 

Above the location name the word 'Drumcaran' has been written.  If this is an annotators marking then it does look like what has been written there.  Again what has been written was presumably by a person other than Mary Brannen, so it may be questionable that it is the spelling of what she or the person giving the information actually said.

There are other townlands that are worth searching

Drumcarra

Drumcanon and that does have a McPartlan/d in Griffiths

[shanreagh]

If you're parking things to come back to, then park this marriage as well just in case it's relevant, it's of a Michael McPartland of Ross More townland, son of Phelim McPartlan a farmer, who in Inishmagrath RC Church in 1867 married an Anne Lyons of what I'm assuming is the nearby townland of Kilnagarns Upper or Lower:

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11484/8221497.pdf

Good spot Gaffy. 

Noteworthy also is that the Parish Priest is James McPartlan

[Beavances]

Hi - Wow!  more interesting documents. Thankyou gaffy for the information with marriage showing Phelan McPartlan as the father of the groom (Michael McPartland) ...and, as you say,  the priest is a McPartlan too! The year of 1867 would, if this does turn out to be the correct family, suggest that Michael is an older brother of Mary.

Shanreagh the link to the map showing the distribution of the name McPartlan was fascinating and new to me.

Can I ask which is considered to be the best site for Irish searches? I know the records are not complete but which site do you think would be the better one for this time period? (Mary's birth was 1847 - so presumably her parents were also from there and born around 20 years earlier. I  know Mary was in Scotland by 1871.

I have found with the sites I have used that I can get an initial look  but then I am asked to log in. I'm happy to pay for a site but don't know which will give best coverage.  For example, the John Grenham map site which suggested many marriages and births when I first looked at it now requires me to subscribe. I'm unsure if I do subscribe to that if it would also link to the certificates ?

I take the point raised about how accents can affect what people hear when talking about place names. The extract I attached form the 1921 is from the English census. At the top of the column it asks: 'If born outside of the UK write the name of the country'. I think the enumerator has added Ireland as only the district of Leitrim had been included on the form.
And, as well as that dodgy pen the other thing which would affect what was heard would certainly be the accent! Although Mary had lived in Scotland, I do not know for how long - so it is unclear whether her accent would be Irish of Scottish. Also this census was completed by Mary's son-in-law, he was form the North East of England and definitely and a Geordie accent . At the time Mary and son-in-law were in Yorkshire so presumably that is where the enumerator was from.
Thanks , one again all who have  offered ideas.

[PatLac]

"Scotland, Civil Registration, 1855-1875, 1881, 1891", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6TFP-Q2W8 : Fri Oct 25 22:05:36 UTC 2024), Entry for James Brenan and James Brenan, 9 Mar 1871.Name


Agnes Neillan McPartlan
Sex   F

Agnes Neillan McPartlan's Spouses and Children


Pharlan McPartlan
Husband
M

Mary McPartlan
Child
23

Other People on This Record


James Brenan
24

James Brenan person details
Name   James Brenan
Age   24
Birth Year (Estimated)   1847
Marital Status   Single
Father's Name   James Brenan
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Isabella Holleran Brenan
Mother's Sex   Female
Spouse's Name   Mary McPartlan
Spouse's Age   23
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)   1848
Spouse's Marital Status   Single
Spouse's Father's Name   Pharlan McPartlan
Spouse's Father's Sex   Male
Spouse's Mother's Name   Agnes Neillan McPartlan
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   9 Mar 1871
Event Place   Selkirk, Selkirkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
James Brenan
M

Isabella Holleran Brenan
F










"Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1740-1900", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6BY8-DGG8 : Thu Nov 21 09:47:17 UTC 2024), Entry for Stephen McPartlan and Phelan? McPartlan, 1837.

Name   Stephen McPartlan
Father's Name   Phelan? McPartlan
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Kitty Dolan
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Baptism
Event Date   1837
Event Place   Innismagrath, County Leitrim, Ireland

[Sinann]

Just something to bear in mind about the map on John Grenham's site, great and all as it is, the list is how the names were spelt in Griffith's Valuation, not necessarily how the same families are named in other records.
For example the 6 Partlin names in St.Mary's Westmeath, in other records are all Partland apart from the ones who went to Australia where they become Partlon. (I'm related to all of them)

John's site gives you 3 free searches a day, just wait until tomorrow, you get 3 more.

No one site will give you everything, most are free and don't require any registration.

[Kiltaglassan]

Name   Stephen McPartlan
Father's Name   Phelan? McPartlan
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Kitty Dolan
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Baptism
Event Date   1837
Event Place   Innismagrath, County Leitrim, Ireland

Ennismagrath
Diocese of Kilmore | County of Leitrim
Variant forms of parish name: Drumkeerin, Innismagrath, Drumkeren
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0830?locale=en
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634852?locale=en#page/34/mode/1up
(5th line down, right hand page - 13 Oct? 1837)

[PatLac]

Yes, he married and his first children were born in Drumkeeran.

[Beavances]

Thanks - and a query!
Firstly, I can't thank you all enough for your and knowledge time in helping me. 
Sinann, the tip about 3 searches a day will be useful. Also I understand what you say about the way the name can be written in various ways and that is is easy to confuse with similar sounding names. 

The information from Scottish records on Family search, found by PatLac confirms exactly what is on the marriage certificate.

The baptism record Stephen, son for a Phelan (?)  McPartlan is something I have not seen before. So maybe a brother for Michael,  who married in 1867 and is also a son of a Phelan McPartlan(d) (entry posted by shanreagh)

Looking at the attached record of Catholic Parish Records ( posted by Kiltaglassen) are new records to me. I see the 1837 entry at 13 for Stephen, son of Phelin and Kitty  and have assumed that the two names, James R? and Dolly MPartlan are witnesses. I hope that is correct.
I notices also that the entry above, entry 12,  has Miles & Kitty Mc Partlan which, I am again, presuming they are witnesses.

I think I need a big piece of paper to start putting all these possibilities into some sort of order.  I am very excited at what you have all found but  I need to remind myself that the Mary McPartlan ( born 1847 & married in Selkirk, Scotland in 1871) who I started looking for  says she is the daughter of Phelan Mc Partlan and Agnes Neillan.

[PatLac]

Could this be Agnes?

"Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1740-1900", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6V1K-6746 : Thu Nov 21 13:44:31 UTC 2024), Entry for Mrs McPartlan, 30 Jan 1872.

Phelim McPartlan

"Ireland, Civil Registration, 1845-1913", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGK1-L5R9 : Mon Mar 04 17:52:32 UTC 2024), Entry for Phelim McPartlan, 4 Jan 1868.