Parish in Hampshire

[LizzieL]

Discharge papers available
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8853877

Is 1816 the date of his discharge?

Reference:   WO 97/1214/212
Description:   
GEORGE BONE
Born STOKESBAY, Hampshire
Served in Cornish Fencibles; Devonshire Fencibles; Royal Artillery Drivers
Discharged aged 35
Covering date gives year of discharge.
Date:   1816

Image is on FindMyPast. It says Devon or Cornwall Fencibles for 1 year and 186 days, then RA driver for 13 years and 152 days (dates are given for this period as 5 March 1803 to May 1816 (date not given, presumably 14th - date of discharge). Doesn't quite add up to 13yr 152 days. Total service 14 years and 338 days. This should give an enlistment date in mid June 1801. It says he enlisted at 21, therefore birth date abt 1780
Discharge at approx 35 years of age is dated 14 May 1816. Says his birth is at Stokesbay "in or near the town of Portsmouth".
Ancestry has records of Cornish militia and Fencibles 1780 - 1831, his name doesn't come up.

[bearkat]

I've been round the same circles.  As previous posts have said there is a baptism for George Bone son of James & Sarah,  8th Jun 1783 at St Mary's Alverstoke. A likely burial for the same George, son of James, 22nd Feb 1786 at the same church.

It's a puzzle.

[LizzieL]

Have we a death record with age on it? To get a second opinion on his birth year.
If the Army record is accurate as to age we're looking at 1780 in Stokes Bay or nearest church. Why would a boy born in Hampshire join the Fencibles of a different county some way further west? Where is Stokes Bay would he be born? Nothing much there now, likely to be less in 1780. Maybe his father was in the navy / army defending the coast against invasion and in some sort of barracks now demolished. Then later moved to Devon or Cornwall when George was a child.

[KGarrad]

Stokes Bay (grid ref.:)SZ 590 980) (50.782982, -1.163868) is an area of the Solent that lies just south of Gosport, between Portsmouth and Lee-on-the-Solent, Hampshire.
The settlement of Alverstoke is close by.

Alverstoke parish comprises the town and port of Gosport, a suburb of Portsmouth, and the chapelries and hamlets of Gosport, Forton, Anglesey, Hardway, and Elson. It is situated on the coast of Stoke Bay.

[LizzieL]

Stokes Bay (grid ref.:)SZ 590 980) (50.782982, -1.163868) is an area of the Solent that lies just south of Gosport, between Portsmouth and Lee-on-the-Solent, Hampshire.
The settlement of Alverstoke is close by.

Alverstoke parish comprises the town and port of Gosport, a suburb of Portsmouth, and the chapelries and hamlets of Gosport, Forton, Anglesey, Hardway, and Elson. It is situated on the coast of Stoke Bay.

I'd seen the list of other hamlets but not Elson. Could that be what Ismane (or similar) was intended to be?

[PatLac]

All parishes here https://www.familysearch.org/mapp/ including Elson and East Meon, and according to it not many records survive.

[Lewis21]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP5G-NLYD?lang=en


https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/vitals/G4R2-PDK

Interesting links PatLac.

The 1746 baptism of a George Bone at East Meon is too early for the George who was 35 on his army papers in 1816, (born about 1781), but looks as though it may be of the same family.

I have seen several trees like this one on the familysearch link also on MyHeritage.
Unfotunately all of them say that George Bone was born and lived all his life in Durham, and his ancestors came from the North East.

The very first post by Lewis stated that  "His next son's baptism in 1812 has him as being a native of Stokesbay Parish, which I assume is Stokes Bay in the parish of Alverstoke".
You don't say where this baptism was Lewis - I think we've presumed in Hampshire, but may be conceivably be back in Northumberland again. Where was he baptised?

Can there have been two families with father George Bone and his wife Mary Lumley?

Quite a puzzler!

Apologies! The two baptisms I have focused on are those from St. John's in Newcastle, both during that period of about 1797-1812 when all the wonderful extra detail was added to the baptismal records in Durham and Northumberland, particularly the parents' parish of origin.

George married Mary in 1806 in Durham in her native parish of St Nicholas. First child was Stephen in 1809 (haven't found an earlier baptism) in Newcastle:

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818ce33e93790ec8b332b3b/stephen-bone-baptism-northumberland-newcastle-upon-tyne-1809-07-30?locale=en

And then George in 1812 in the same place:

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818ce37e93790ec8b333383/george-bone-baptism-northumberland-newcastle-upon-tyne-1812-06-07?locale=en

(I've checked these entries against the original BT images and they are accurate).

Subsequent baptisms don't give any further detail, only that they ended up in the Houghton-le-Spring area of Durham.

[Lewis21]

Stokes Bay (grid ref.:)SZ 590 980) (50.782982, -1.163868) is an area of the Solent that lies just south of Gosport, between Portsmouth and Lee-on-the-Solent, Hampshire.
The settlement of Alverstoke is close by.

Alverstoke parish comprises the town and port of Gosport, a suburb of Portsmouth, and the chapelries and hamlets of Gosport, Forton, Anglesey, Hardway, and Elson. It is situated on the coast of Stoke Bay.

I'd seen the list of other hamlets but not Elson. Could that be what Ismane (or similar) was intended to be?

I've not seen that before either, the area is certainly about right based on the records seen so far.

[Lewis21]

Have we a death record with age on it? To get a second opinion on his birth year.
If the Army record is accurate as to age we're looking at 1780 in Stokes Bay or nearest church. Why would a boy born in Hampshire join the Fencibles of a different county some way further west? Where is Stokes Bay would he be born? Nothing much there now, likely to be less in 1780. Maybe his father was in the navy / army defending the coast against invasion and in some sort of barracks now demolished. Then later moved to Devon or Cornwall when George was a child.

The entry in the GRO indexes gives his age as 60, died September quarter of 1841 in the Easington district - so that would give a birth year of 1780/1781, which ties in pretty well.

Now I think about it the Devon and Cornwall Fencibles is a bit random given where he was born, there must be something to it, surely.