Is there any evidence of a Birth of James Keefe in Wexford in 1865

[ALAMO2008]

In January 1881 a James Matthew Keefe joined  the Royal Navy as 115510 Station his Birth as 22 October 1865 Liverpool

But in 1885 a James Keefe enlisted into the 21st Hussars aged 19 as 2450 stating Birth as Kilmore Quay Co Wexford

This has split the Ancestors whether he was born in Liverpool or Wexford in 1865 because not only means his Parents had different Names as well as the Birth Year.

I maintain he was born 22 October 1866 in Liverpool December Quarter 1866
but the Ancestors won't accept that because it gives a different Mother's Name not known to them.

To Solve it- Was there a James Keefe born in Wexford in 1865?

and if so -are his Parents Known?

His Father was named John Keefe or Keeffe a Tailor Journeyman
 who might have had a Wife previously
 and Daughter Margaret

[Milliepede]

What birthplace does he have on census?

James has parents and an older sister born Ireland in 1871

What do you mean by the ancestors won’t accept it as the mothers name is not known to them 

The birth registration for Liverpool will have mothers maiden name

[aghadowey]

I don't understand either-

What do you mean by the ancestors won’t accept it as the mothers name is not known to them 

The birth registration for Liverpool will have mothers maiden name

From GRO index-
KEEFE, JAMES  MATTHEW     MCGEORGE  [McGeorge being mother's maiden name]
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 154

[shanreagh]

Maybe he meant other 'descendants', as he is, won't accept the record that Alamo2008 thinks is more likely.

But it would be good if we could have a conversation about records with our ancestors...sort of check we're going in the right direction. 

[Kiltaglassan]

But it would be good if we could have a conversation about records with our ancestors...sort of check we're going in the right direction. 

                 

[heywood]

Do you not have the marriage and children to check the spouse and mother’s name?
From Lancs BMD

James Matthew Keefe married Ellen Garrette in 1900 - Liverpool-  Registry Office or Registrar attended.


Ellen Deprey married Eugene Garrett in 1888- Liverpool St Peter’s.

[ALAMO2008]

Do you not have the marriage and children to check the spouse and mother’s name?
From Lancs BMD

James Matthew Keefe married Ellen Garrette in 1900 - Liverpool-  Registry Office or Registrar attended.


Ellen Deprey married Eugene Garrett in 1888- Liverpool St Peter’s.

Cheers Heywood

Eugene Garrett died 1890
Ellen married James Matthew Keefe 1900
But before they married they had Two Children
James Matthew Jnr 1895
Catherine Bridget 1897
There are No Registrations of their Birth that I can see
But they pretended to be Married as Keefe at St Vincent de Paul Baptism on 28 July 1897 for Catherine

[ALAMO2008]

James Matthew Keefe shows on each Census born Liverpool
1911 Census he declared he and Ellen had 7 Children of the Marriage but 2 Died pre 1911 leaving those 5 alive still at Home
But as said above No Trace of Registration of James Matthew Jnr or Catherine Bridget
But add to them add No Trace of Peter in 1904

I found Louisa September Quarter 1906
And Emma September Quarter 1910

No Trace of the Two that Died

The Family found it hard to accept that there were No WW1 Medals Cards for James Matthew Keefe Snr

But I found that he was One of Three Sgt Majors responsible for creating the First Dock Battalion of the King's Liverpool and he was the Secretary of the First UK Dock Union
He served at Home for 5 years 1914 to 1919 and Not Entitled to Any WW1 Medals

[CaroleW]

What marital status is shown for James when he married in 1900 given he was 34 at that time