Author Topic: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755  (Read 963 times)

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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 April 25 20:00 BST (UK) »
And James Gellender was a fruiterer (note this was published in the same week as the previous snippet)

6 October 1865: Newcastle Daily Chronicle


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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 April 25 20:19 BST (UK) »
Wow people, you really came up with the beans! Thank you all so much. I have now I think, been able to provide my friend with the link back to Jersey in her ancestry! You have been a huge help! Thank you!!!

Sophies Ancestry

Generation 1
Jean (John) Gellender – born c. late 1700s, possibly early 1800s, born Jersey
Spouse: Elizabeth Betsey Brasford
Known child:
James Gellender, born c.1834, St Martin, Jersey

Generation 2
James Gellender (b. ~1834, St Martin, Jersey – d. bef. 1881, Newcastle)
Spouse: Mary Aubin (b. ~1833, Jersey – d. aft. 1881, Newcastle)
Married: 15 September 1859, St Martin, Jersey
Mary's father: Franηois Aubin
Children (all born Newcastle, Northumberland):
James William Gellender (b. 1860)
Florence Mary Elizabeth Gellender (b. 1862)
Francis John Gellender (b. 1864)
Blanche Louise Gellender (b. 1866)
Ernest Henry Gellender (b. 1868)
Ada Amy Gellender (b. 1870)
Louisa Mary Gellender (b. 1873)
Charles Frederick Gellender (b. 1874)

Generation 3
James William Gellender (b. 1860, Newcastle)
Spouse: Ada Caroline Peel
Married: 1882, Newcastle upon Tyne
Child:
Charles H. Gellender (b. 1903 – d. 1930)

Generation 4
Charles H. Gellender (1903–1930)
Spouse: Mary Isabella Lamb (1901–1953)
Child:
Francis E. A. Gellender (1927–2005)

Generation 5
Francis E. A. Gellender (1927–2005)
Spouse: Jean Emily Pain (1927–2015)
Child:
Neil Gellender (b. 1960)

Generation 6
Neil Gellender (b. 1960)
Spouse: Helen Bartlett (b. 1962)
Child:
Sophie Gellender (b. 1994)

Thanks again

Chrissy

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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 April 25 20:31 BST (UK) »
1851 Census: St Martin, Jersey. Francis Aubin, 43, draper, born Grouville, Jersey; daughter Mary, 18; son John, 16; daughter Jane, 14; son Charles, 12; all born St Martins.

1841: Francis, 32, draper; Mary, 32; Francis, 10; Mary, 8; John, 6; Jane,4; Charles, 2; Elizabeth Coutanches, 28. But wife/mother's name is not Elizabeth so maybe this Mary isn't the future Mrs Gellender.
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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 April 25 23:30 BST (UK) »
Thats great thank you, the original intention was to try and go back to investigate the origin of her surname but is reportedly rare. There are various hypotheses.


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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 April 25 00:14 BST (UK) »
Jean GELLENDER married Elizabeth BRASFORD
25 Mar 1813 St Helier Jersey

Children of Jean and Elizabeth Gellender / Gelender baptised St Helier, Jersey:-
•   John Gellender - 7 Aug 1814 (Godparents – William Gelender the grandfather and Anne Gelender the aunt)
•   Edouard Gellender - 25 Feb 1816 – burial 29 Feb
•   Edouard Gellender – 3 Jan 1817  - burial Oct 1818 (Godparents – Edouard Brasford the grandfather and Jeanne Le Vavasseur dit Durell his wife)
•   Edouard Durell Gellender – 7 Mar 1819
•   George Gellender - 4 Feb 1821
•   Elizabeth Gellender - 24 Mar 1822
•   Louisa Gellender – 10 Aug 1823
•   Eliza Jane Gellender  - 26 Sep 1824
•   George Thomas Gellender – 25 Jan 1826
•   Jane Durell Gelender – 17 Jan 1827 (Godparents – Edouard Brasford the grandfather and Jeanne Le Vavasseur dit Durell his wife)
•   Bailly Gellender – 10 Apr 1831
•   Charles Gellender – 16 June 1833
•   James Gellender – 3 Aug 1834

1841 census St Helier
John GELENDER 45 bootmaker
Elizth GELENDER 40
John G 20 grocer, Edward G 20 shoe maker, Lucia/ louisa 15 dressmaker, George 14
Jane 10, Bailly 8, Charles 6, James 5


Elizabeth Gellender, nee Brasford - burial St Helier 30 Sep 1867

Death John/ Jean GELLENDER master cordwainer age 77
29 Jan 1869



ADDED
Jean Gellender was born abt 1790.
I believe this will be his parents.

William GELLENDER (of Aberdeen Scotland, Sojouner in St Helier)** to Louise Le BAILLY (of St Helier)
Marriage 24 Nov 1785 St. Saviour Jersey

William GELENDER burial 22 May 1830 St Helier Jersey, Age 70

** - so he came originally from Aberdeen Scotland,born abt 1760.
I believe the marriage record actually names him as William GLENDERS.
attached below.

You find the surname GILLENDERS / GALENDERS / GILLANDAR, etc in Aberdeenshire in the mid-late 1700s and forward.

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 April 25 02:08 BST (UK) »
Mary AUBIN baptism 16 Sep 1832 St Martin
Daughter of Francois AUBIN and Marie Rachel COUTANCHE


MARRIAGE 4 Jan 1829 Grouville
Francois AUBIN to Marie Rachel COUTANCHE (Trinity)


Children of Francois AUBIN and Marie Rachel COUTANCHE
•   Francois – 22 Aug 1830 bapt Grouville
•   Mary – 16 Sep 1832 bapt St Martin
•   Jean – 30 Nov 1834 bapt St Martin
•   Jane - 20 Nov 1836 bapt St Martin
•   Charles – 20 June 1839 bapt St Martin


Burial – Maria Rachel AUBIN nee COUTANCHE (38 years) wife of Francois
16 Jan 1847 St. Martin


Baptism - Maria Rachel COUTANCHE
5 June 1808 Trinity
Daughter of Philippe and Marie COUTANCHE

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Baptism – Francois AUBIN
03 Apr 1808 Grouville
Son of Josue AUBIN and Elizabeth LE BOULANGER


MARRIAGE 20 Feb 1796 Grouville
Josue AUBIN to Elizabeth LE BOULANGER

Children of  Josue and Elizabeth AUBIN baptised Grouville:-
•   Thomas 1796
•   Joseph 1798
•   Elizabeth 1801
•   Anne 1803
•   Francois 1808

Burial – Josue AUBIN – 5 Mar 1826 Grouville (no age recorded)

Burial – Elizabeth AUBIN (nee Le BOULANGER)
30 Aug 1834 Grouville. Widow of Josue.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 19 April 25 03:50 BST (UK) »
You guys are the gift that keeps on giving!!! You are amazing! Thank you so much!

Chrissy

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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 19 April 25 04:06 BST (UK) »
Continuation of my previous reply#13.

I have found the baptism for John GALENDER
St Helier 20 Aug 1790
Son of William Galender and Louise Le Bailly

Yes, the children’s baptisms are all with the name GALENDER in St Helier
1786 William
1789 Anne
1790 Jean (John)
1793 George
1798 David
Parents William Galender and Louise Le Bailly
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Marriage lookup: James William Gellenders & Ada Caroline, c.1745–1755
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 19 April 25 06:31 BST (UK) »
Hi, just to jump in.

The Jersey 1815 Militia Survey gives :

William Gallander, aged 65
William Gallander, aged 30

Both of whom would fit nicely.
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