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Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« on: Wednesday 16 April 25 15:22 BST (UK) »
I am hoping someone can find a burial record for Catherine Rose who married Alexander Smith on October 8, 1854 at Ardersier Inverness-shire. Alexander was born in 1767 and died on October 8, 1854 and is buried in Dunlitchity Churchyard Cemetery. Her name is on the tombstone but no birth or death dates suggesting she may not be buried there.
I did think that her parents were William Rose and Elizabeth Shaw, but it's likely that was a different Catherine who married Farquhar Smith so I am still looking for her parents as well.
Thanks for any help.

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Re: Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 April 25 15:29 BST (UK) »
I am hoping someone can find a burial record for Catherine Rose who married Alexander Smith on October 8, 1854 at Ardersier Inverness-shire. Alexander was born in 1767 and died on October 8, 1854 and is buried in Dunlitchity Churchyard Cemetery.

Are your dates correct as you have Alexander dying the same day he married.
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Re: Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 April 25 16:09 BST (UK) »
Sorry his marriage date should be December 6, 1808 at Ardersier

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Re: Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 April 25 20:06 BST (UK) »
It looks as if there are surviving records of the baptisms of two children of Alexander Smith and Catherine Rose; Alexander on 4 March 1803 and Catherine on 3 August 1806.

In the 1841 census, at Achlaiscoil, Daviot are Alex Smith, 70; Isabel Smith, 25; Alex Smith, 30; James Fraser, 15; Margaret Clunas, 20 and Catherine McDonald, 10.

At the same address in 1851 are Alexander Smith; 82; Alex Smith, 46; Mary Smith, 39; Catharine Smith, 6; Alexander Smith, 4; Marjory Smith, 2; John  Mackintosh, 21; Janet Cameron, 21; Sophy McKenzie, 32. All the Smiths were born in Daviot.

So it looks as if Catherine Rose must have died before 1841. The chances are that she had died long enough before her husband for the family to be unsure of her date of death when they put up the gravestone. So she is almost certainly in the same grave in Dunlichity.
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Re: Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 April 25 00:10 BST (UK) »
I think you are correct that she was dead at the time of the 1841 census. I was hoping that there might be burial records for her. I have been unable to find any.
The tombstone was erected by Andrew Smith C.W. (Canada West) my 2nd great grandfather who came to Canada in 1832. She probably died sometime after he left Scotland.

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Re: Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 April 25 08:48 BST (UK) »
I think you are correct that she was dead at the time of the 1841 census. I was hoping that there might be burial records for her. I have been unable to find any.
The tombstone was erected by Andrew Smith C.W. (Canada West) my 2nd great grandfather who came to Canada in 1832. She probably died sometime after he left Scotland.
If there's nothing on Scotland's People it's 99.9% certain that there is no record of her burial.

There are no surviving records of pre-1855 burials in the parish registers of Daviot and Dunlichity.

If the minutes and accounts of the Daviot and Dunlichity Kirk Session for the time had survived, they might have contained a record of a payment for the mortcloth, but only the minutes from 1771 to 1795 have survived. The index says that 1834-1835 is also in the same volume, but on a cursory look I did not find anything later than 1795. You could have a look for yourself.

Other sources for deaths are wills; I looked at the index and there is no will of Catherine Rose or Smith.

It's highly unlikely that her death would have been announced in the newspapers, and you already have the gravestone, so I fear that the information about her death simply does not exist.

Just in case you have yet to find Achlaschoille, see https://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/nh6937
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Re: Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 April 25 12:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your research into Catherine's burial. I believe you are right and that no records exist but I appreciate this very much!

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Re: Death of Catherine Rose Smith
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 April 25 13:20 BST (UK) »
You're welcome.
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