Ellen Cleary born c.1865 Tipperary died 1944 NY

[Bellevue]

I am wondering if there is another more detailed marriage record for Ellen, who married Patrick Ryan 6 Jan 1885 Kings, New York.
The New York, U.S., Extracted Marriage Index, 1866-1937, just gives their names, but I'm wondering if other records might give parents' names.

On an ancestry tree, I came across names for Ellen's parents but with no reference, James Cleary and Mary Keating and it gave Ellen's birthplace as Clonmel, Tipperary. But no references.

I have children's names for Ellen and Patrick. I'm interested in finding her parents or any siblings of Ellen.

[athacliath62]

See this link : https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/7684391

The second part of the records includes place of birth and parents names

(New York City - Dept. of Records and Information Services)

[athacliath62]

Also a transcript on FamilySearch, except they have the bride's mother as Mary Kentucky instead of Keating!

[shellyesq]

Ellen's death certificate gives the same parents' names.  https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/714960

[RJ137]

Ellen's death certificate gives the same parents' names.  https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/714960

You missed the "4" on the end of the url

https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/7149604

[Bellevue]

Ok, thanks for confirming the names of the parents.
I will see if I can find her birth; I didn't have any luck earlier on.

[athacliath62]

Her age was a little under-estimated on marriage etc, quite common so birth was before the start of birth records, likely baptism in Clonmel (St. Mary's) 24th June 1860 : https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632165#page/119/mode/1up  (top entry right hand page - twin with a James jnr.)

[Bellevue]

Her age was a little under-estimated on marriage etc, quite common so birth was before the start of birth records, likely baptism in Clonmel (St. Mary's) 24th June 1860 : https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632165#page/119/mode/1up  (top entry right hand page - twin with a James jnr.)

Well spotted. Thanks

[shellyesq]

Ellen's obituary is here, but no mention of parents or siblings.  https://www.newspapers.com/article/brooklyn-eagle-obituary-for-ellen-cleary/170311470/