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Offline Glen in Tinsel Kni

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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #9 on: Monday 14 April 25 15:48 BST (UK) »
As Anthony says 'It is impossible to determine what is on the entry with absolute accuracy from the indexes alone.'

Looking at the index it would be easy to assume I am the child of a married couple (E/W birth in 1966), but it is only when viewing the certificate that it's apparent there is no father named. My birth registration follows all the requirements but the index itself doesn't provide all the information or represent the whole story.

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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 April 25 01:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Yes that's the one I was referring to. I think I will get a digital image and take a look. Can't find a baptism record, but that doesn't mean there is none.  Her parents were William Bradshaw b 1839 Sheffield and Eliza/Elizabeth Guest (Norton is her birth name-but certificate of marriage says surname is Guest-  long story). Matilda was born on 18th Feb 1860, as per the details on the 1939 register. The marriage took place on 29th July 1860.

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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 April 25 22:14 BST (UK) »
I don't wish to throw a cat amongst the pigeons, but the d/o/b on the 1939 register doesn't always match the d/o/b on a birth certificate.

I've encountered multiple occasions where I have the birth cert. and once I 100% accurately locate that person on the 1939 register, the d/o/b doesn't match. Usually it's close, for example, the 3rd May instead of the 3rd of July.
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 April 25 07:44 BST (UK) »



" Her parents were William Bradshaw b 1839 Sheffield and Eliza/Elizabeth Guest (Norton is her birth name-but certificate of marriage says surname is Guest-  long story). Matilda was born on 18th Feb 1860, as per the details on the 1939 register. "

If you are researching the origins of...?....Matilda GUEST.....can you please list all the information that you see on the marriage certificate.......everything please.



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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 April 25 21:36 BST (UK) »
Where does Norton appear as her birth name please? 

If she was born before parents married then technically she would have mothers surname ie Guest and if father was Bradshaw I can’t see a Norton link  :-\
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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 April 25 00:39 BST (UK) »
I think Sasbear means that Eliza GUEST who married William BRADSHAW was actually born Eliza NORTON. But will wait for Sasbear to confirm.  ;)

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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 19 April 25 01:40 BST (UK) »
I think Sasbear means that Eliza GUEST who married William BRADSHAW was actually born Eliza NORTON. But will wait for Sasbear to confirm.  ;)

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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 19 April 25 01:42 BST (UK) »
I think Sasbear means that Eliza GUEST who married William BRADSHAW was actually born Eliza NORTON. But will wait for Sasbear to confirm.  ;)

Yes Elizabeth Guest. That is the line of enquiry.  Lots of help from a Sheffield forum, and lots of hypotheses,  but I will still keep searching for answers.

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Re: registering a birth in the 1860's
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 19 April 25 08:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks for clarifying.  I thought Matilda Guest was the issue not her mother.

So her mother is born Eliza Norton but marries as Eliza Guest

If her mother was Norton then married a Guest I don’t quite see what the problem is  :-\

What record has her with the surname Norton please? 

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