registering a birth in the 1860's

[coombs]

Have you obtained a copy of the birth cert for Matilda from 1860 yet?

[Milliepede]

The topic title is registering a birth in the 1860's so it has to be about Matilda doesn't it 

If she was born in 1860 then her mother wouldn't be born in the 1860's, yep still confused sorry 

Could you clarify please Sasbear which record has the Norton name on it?  Thank you

[Jebber]

It is never safe to rely on the details on certificates being true. I have two birth certificates from the early 1900s where the parents were cohabiting under the man’s surname but while both were still married to other people. The mother was the informant on each birth, all the information is correct except she changed the surname they were using to a totally different one except for the initial letter W.

My mother-in-law was illegitimate, no father named on her birth certificate, she had never seen her full birth certificate so didn't even know her mother's name until I ordered a copy. She was brought up in a foster family but never used their name. When she married my husband's father there is a blank space where the Father's name would have been. When she married the second time her foster father is named on the marriage certificate.

I have other certificates where an illegitimate child has a fictitious father named, that was quite common, the  same with fictitious fathers named on marriage certificate.

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

The topic title is registering a birth in the 1860's so it has to be about Matilda doesn't it 

If she was born in 1860 then her mother wouldn't be born in the 1860's, yep still confused sorry 

Could you clarify please Sasbear which record has the Norton name on it?  Thank you

Matilda's birth index entry indicates her parents were married but predates the marriage entry, the original question asked how this was possible and if the parents had to provide proof of marriage when registering a child. 

[Sasbear]

Have you obtained a copy of the birth cert for Matilda from 1860 yet?

Yes I uploaded it on here yesterday.  Internet not great here as camping so not sure if uploaded ok.
Sarah

[Sasbear]

The topic title is registering a birth in the 1860's so it has to be about Matilda doesn't it 

If she was born in 1860 then her mother wouldn't be born in the 1860's, yep still confused sorry 

Could you clarify please Sasbear which record has the Norton name on it?  Thank you

Matilda is the initial inquiry but her mother Elizabeth 'Guest' is my ultimate quest. I have struggled to find her ancestry line. I have no concrete evidence of her birth, name, but suspect City Road London, I can give more details when I get home from camping.
Thanks for all responses, I really appreciate all information received on this forum.
Sarah

[maddys52]

Sasbear's thread about Joseph GUEST and Elizabeth NORTON might help with some background to the problem.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=889653.0

[Milliepede]

Thank you Sarah.

You may have already investigated this but there is a marriage in 1845 Whitechapel
Joseph Guest Elizabeth Norton

John Norton Guest born 1842 plus a Joseph Thomas Guest born 1847

Wondered if she was the mother of your Elizabeth

There was an 1841 census, can't find it again now, with an Elizabeth plus 2 possible children called Elizabeth & Eliza

[Milliepede]

Sasbear's thread about Joseph GUEST and Elizabeth NORTON might help with some background to the problem.

Snap thank you!