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Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« on: Friday 11 April 25 17:50 BST (UK) »
Hi all, I am trying to work out the origins of someone born in Norfolk (apparently in Burnham area) on 5 November 1884. I don't think he was born under the name he later used (Harry John Ellis) or that his father was necessarily his biological father. But I do have the claimed exact date of birth from a baptism record (he was baptised aged 8 years old).

Is there any way of checking (through civil registration records or something else) who was born on a particular day in Norfolk and/or the registration district)? Or some other way of identifying parentage? It could help narrow the possibilities down to a few people. Thanks.

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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 April 25 18:00 BST (UK) »
The GRO index of birth registrations does not show exact birthdates. 

Who are the parents shown on the baptismal record?

Does the baptismal record show him as Harry John Ellis?
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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 April 25 18:10 BST (UK) »
If you look at the baptismal entry - 3 baptisms for the same family on the same day.  No mother shown - father John Ellis abode Ulph

John b 27.11.1882
Albert John 6.7.1883
Henry John 5.11.1884

The first 2 birthdates can’t be correct as there is less than 8mths between the births (see reply 4 below)
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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 April 25 18:18 BST (UK) »
Birth - Henry John Ellis Marsters March qtr 1885 Docking 4b 335 - mmn Meek

1891 - all b Burnham

John Ellis 60 retired butcher
Lenora Marsters 34 housekeeper
John Ellis 9
Albert J 7
Harry J 6
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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 April 25 18:22 BST (UK) »
Albert John Ellis Marsters Sept qtr 1883 Docking  4b 297 mmn Meek
John Ellis Marsters March qtr 1882 Docking 4b 323 mmn Meek (probably born 27.11 1881)
 

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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 April 25 18:26 BST (UK) »
Joseph Marsters married LEAH Meek March qtr 1877 Docking
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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 April 25 18:42 BST (UK) »
If you want to check out anything else, then you will find the Norfolk Registry book online.  Ul;ph is mentioned along with other parishes.

https://archive.org/details/norfolkparishreg04phil/page/n7/mode/2up
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 April 25 18:43 BST (UK) »
Birth - Leonora Meek Sept qtr 1856 Docking 4b 278 mmn Crane

In 1881 Leah Marsters  24 is shown as married but a pauper

She has 2 children both b Burnham.  Arthur 7 & Ernest 1

Arthur was b Arthur Robert Meek 1873 - illegitimate
Ernest John Marsters mmn Meek was b 1880

In 1881 Ernest John Marsters aged 11 is in the Docking Workhouse

In 1901 Lenora Marsters 44 widow is living alone
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Re: Birth in Norfolk in 1884 — listing births on a particular day?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 April 25 08:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks a lot for all this. It makes more sense now!