looking for information on Sophey [Sophie] gilbert bron 1899.

[Kiltaglassan]

I have found his marriage 2oth September 1904 and his father is stated as Mark Gilbert, Game Keeper .

See reply #12

[Kiltaglassan]

The link opens to show the Ballygrohan Townland in color like on a street map but if one looks to the left there is a layer stack and clicking that the map becomes a grey-scale  image of a much older map.

                https://arcg.is/1yDSuz2

[Essnell]

Hi Kiltaglassan,   I  must have bad eyesight , to have not seen that.  Probably too intent on Sophie. etc.  but I have been pushed to re-look as I have a DNA match that says she married John Harris .  now that all upended things a bit because  Charles George Gilbert came up in searches so  ....  yes the father was Charles Gilbert---Mark and Harriet's last child so --- that makes Florence, Emily's cousin........ in digging through that I discovered her siblings.: 

Lucy 1905: Charles 1908; Florence 1912; Margaret 1914.     
Do not think there were any others. 
I have no idea why he used George at times as his name or part of it.

Now that map:  That image is the one I was asking about.  What era would that be from?  It's obviously well before the Google ones that are on here .   My estimate is early 1850's.at least.

Thanks for helping yet again. 
Essnell

[Kiltaglassan]

Now that map:  That image is the one I was asking about.  What era would that be from?

6 Inch Colour    (1829-1841)
Tailte Ιireann (OSi)

[Essnell]

Hi Kiltaglassan
Thank you for the map image.  Map Genie is very clever. 

I have another simple question...... was a Census taken in Ireland in 1881. I know there was such in England. 

Reason I am asking is because I have another Gilbert Person who left Ireland to go to England about 1880.  I cannot find him on the English Census for 1881. I am trying to pinpoint when he left Ireland.  After that I have his marriage in England and his children etc. 

Maybe the Irish Census was taken in a different year. 

  Thanks for any information. 
Essnell

Addit  Just found two news paper mentions of this chap one 1892 and then 1894.   but that's 10yrs down the the track for him but it gives me an idea of where he was living at that time.  Still nothing in 1881.
Essnell

[Kiltaglassan]

I have another simple question...... was a Census taken in Ireland in 1881. I know there was such in England. 

Yes, but it no longer exists.

It was pulped during the First World War, probably because of the paper shortage.

See http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/help/history.html

[Essnell]

Hi Kiltaglassan, 


Oh dear...  so that giggers my idea. well i suppose they had to do it. what about 1861 and 1871. Probably sufferd the same fate...

but i do have this:  it's off a search that is on Family search. 

so this fellow
///////    Thomas Hart Gilbert  was born in 1859. 

  The search details say this
///////

Census    in Clogheen Tipperary
              with parents age 9...
                1868

Census   in Clogheen       rest of family left

               1869   
             Clogheen Tipperary.

Census  1873    Clogheen Tipperary

                Holmes Grandparents


1874    left estate

            Shanbally    [I believe this was Shanbally Castle Estate]

            Joined Inland Revenue 1878     ///////

Why would those odd dates be quoted under "Census"  and how and where would I be able to validate this information.   Could this refer to electoral Rolls  but i doubt it as it involves at first a child.

Essnell

[Kiltaglassan]

what about 1861 and 1871. Probably sufferd the same fate...

Did you read the link attached in reply #41?

They were destroyed shortly after the censuses were taken.

[Essnell]

Okay,  No I hadn't . I had to go out for a few hours and forgot to when I got back...   my apologies.   


However that still does not explain what those odd dates represent.  Any ideas anyone??

Thank you Essnell