looking for information on Sophey [Sophie] gilbert bron 1899.

[aghadowey]

No closer to finding Sophey's birth but this might be of interest-

Weekly Irish Times, 12 June 1937: Double Wedding At Maryborough ... Rowe, son of Mr. and Mrs. J. H. Rowe, The Lough, Cork, was married to Miss Emily M. C. Gilbert, youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. R. F. Gilbert, of Turret House, Blarney, and Mr. Vernon G. F. Bovenizer, B.A., ... only son of Mr. and Mrs. M. F. Bovenizer ... [bridesmaid Miss Florence Gilbert]

Marriage gives groom as Cyril Francis Rowe and bride as Mary Emily; a witness is Florence Harriett Gilbert-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1937/08901/5219138.pdf

A Florence Harriett Gilbert of Mellifont married in 1939 but her father listed as George Charles Gilbert, an estate steward-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1939/08864/5205516.pdf

[Essnell]

Hi aghadowey, 

Yes that Irish Weekly Times entry is very interesting indeed.
Emily was the youngest daughter of Robert Frederick Gilbert  and Mary Lyons.

I have tried to find Florence Harriet 's birth .. no luck so far.

However this is definitely Emily's marriage .   Florence might be a cousin.  There were quite a few siblings of Robert Frederick Gilbert.

Re Florence' marriage and the father..  it is odd that his occupation is Estate Steward. this is what Robert Frederick was as well. 

I need to do some thinking....
thanks for the above information .. much appreciated.  Essnell.

[Essnell]

Hi. 
I have been looking again and getting no where.
Tried the Kingston idea but nothing  there either.   On the marriage image it has Edward's father as William Kingston
         farmer and that has not been of any assistance either.   
About to see if the civil recs have anything for these two people.   

Essnell
added No luck with the civil records site.  I have contacted the only other person I think may help [a match to a match...]  ,however their Anc. site has very little about Sophia and Edward. 

Essnell

[Kiltaglassan]

I have tried to find Florence Harriet 's birth .. no luck so far.

Florence Harriet Gilbert - 1 July 1912 - father George Gilbert, land steward.    MMN Glasby
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1912/01483/1603896.pdf

Parent's marriage - 20 September 1904
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10208/5715433.pdf

[Sinann]

Harnett died 1937 in Dublin
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1938/04770/4279729.pdf

Not clear it’s her from the cert but her death notice in the Irish Examiner Dec 21 1937 gives her as the daughter of RF Gilbert and Mrs Gilbert The Turret Farm Blarney

[aghadowey]

I have tried to find Florence Harriet 's birth .. no luck so far.

Florence Harriet Gilbert - 1 July 1912 - father George Gilbert, land steward.    MMN Glasby
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1912/01483/1603896.pdf

Parent's marriage - 20 September 1904
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1904/10208/5715433.pdf

There were at least two Florence Harriet Gilberts in the family- this is not the daughter of Robert Frederick Gilbert that Essnell is looking for.

[aghadowey]

Sophie's birth still eludes me perhaps she was born around the time the family moved from Limerick to Tipperary and they overlooked registering it. The 1911 census says 7 children/6 living which doesn't count the eldest unnamed son born 1893 (I didn't find a death for home but the deceased child mentioned on census is probably Thomas George).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Curraclone/Ballyduff/786222/
Also for reference is link to 1901 census, as well as death registrations for Robert & Mary-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Rahelty/Kilclonagh/1713433/
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04697/4253218.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1957/04385/4139508.pdf

Deaths of Edward & Sophie Kingston-
Weekly Irish Times, 4 Jan.1958: KlNGSTON—December 25, 1957, at the Mater Nursing Home, Eccles street, Edward Kingston, Mayfield. Portlaoise. Deeply regretted wife, family and friends.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1957/04388/4140815.pdf (age 65, shopkeeper, home address Main St. Portlaoise)
Irish Independent, 29 July 1986: KINGSTON (nee Gilbert) (Portlaoise) July 2_, 1986, at Rosetta Nursing Home, Sophie, beloved wile of the late Edward Kingston, Mayfield, Abbeyleix Road; deeply mourned by her sons William, Robert, daughters Emily, M_, sister Emily, nieces, nephew, sons-in-law, daughter-in-law, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, relatives ...

I did find lots more but no further forward finding Sophie''s birth.

[Kiltaglassan]

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[Essnell]

hi 
Kiltaglassan, 

Florence Harriett Gilbert ,  She was the bridesmaid and witness at the double wedding for Emily and   xxx  Rowe. The other couple were Bovenizier and xxx. reported in the Weekly Irish Times as posted earlier.

So yes, it looked very much like she was related in some way.  Thanks for those two links about her. 

Food for later research.
Essnell.