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Re: Ann Manning: probable coincidence, but who knows?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 07 April 25 22:33 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann Cambridge
Present at the Death
14 Mason Street
Old Kent Road


I wonder if it should be Mary Ann Hambridge.  She can be found in Mason Street in 1841 age 45 not bn in County with a possible husband James.    H0107/Piece 1085/bk8/f28/p6

Yes it is her  ;D
They are at 14 Mason Street in 1851
James Hambridge age 56 bn Yeovil, Somerset
Mary A Hambridge age 55 bn Bromsgrove, Worcestershire
HO107
Piece 1563
Folio 479
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Re: Ann Manning: probable coincidence, but who knows?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 08 April 25 10:35 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage for the Hambridges, they were both widowed.  30 January 1837 at Lambeth, James Hambridge and Mary Ann Jones, one of the witnesses was an Eliza James, the other a church official

Informants at death do not have to be related, they can be a neighbour or friend  :-\
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Re: Ann Manning: probable coincidence, but who knows?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 08 April 25 11:26 BST (UK) »
In 1841 in Surrey Square, Walworth, there is an Ellen Manning, 45 (age possibly rounded down), Not born county.
A Female Servant, one of three living in the house of Henry Bevington, Leather Tanner.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQKM-VV2

Perhaps she could be the lady who died in Walworth in 1843 :-\


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Re: Ann Manning: probable coincidence, but who knows?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 11 April 25 20:58 BST (UK) »
LizzieL and jonwarrn: Where are you finding these entries for Thomas, Joannes and Patricius? In FindMyPast I can see a Thomas who is born in 1815, died on 22 Dec 1816 and was buried in Spitalfields Burial Ground. That's in Tower Hamlets on the other side of the Thames and you'd think if they lived in Southwark they'd bury him there. Not necessarily, but you'd think so. The information is from a burial index that doesn't give his parents' names. You have a specific birth/baptism date. There is a practice of giving child the name of a predeceased sibling, so another Thomas in 1821 could be

I knew about Honora, but not about the Patricius born a few weeks later. Both baptized in Catholic churches. That's a head-scratcher. Patricius is baptized in St. Mary Moorfields in the City, whereas Ann, Honora, Elizabeth and Thomas were baptized in Southwark. Mind you, Peter and Eleanor were apparently married in St. Magnus the Martyr in the City.

Amazing sleuthing. Now I wonder where Peter and Eleanor came from!
Smith (Midlothian, Scotland); Riddoch, Fraser, Tait, Stewart, McGilvery (Banffshire/Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
Foster, Stevens (Cambridgeshire, England); Adams, Knowles (Somerset, England); Smith, Manning (Southwark/Bermondsey, England)


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Re: Ann Manning: probable coincidence, but who knows?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 13 April 25 15:41 BST (UK) »
there was a sister Honora born in 1815 and baptized at St. George's (Catholic) cathedral.

Are you sure that this is the same Honora you found much later?
Could Honora actually be your Ann? :-\
I have a feeling we have occasionally seen Hannahs and maybe Anns baptized as Honora in catholic records before, but I may be wrong about that.
The names Hannah and Ann sometimes interchangeable?