Thanks for all of this help. Outstanding. great community. Agree I need more time to pick the bones out of it. Im starting to think that its unlikely that I'll find Neil's Baptism, but, in the spirit of not leaving any stone unturned I will try and establish what happened to the other McIntyre that joined up with him by re reading the police books at the Tyne and Wear Archives. Just a little story which illustrates things that are sent to frustrate us. When my older cousin started this process many years ago he was quizzing my grandmother about her grandfather Neil. Oh wait a minute she said there is book with his tartans here somewhere and a portrait painting of him. Of she goes to look while my Granda sits in silence. When she can't find them he finally admits that he got sick of them lying around and burned them on the bonfire in the back garden. Oh My!!