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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 April 25 19:48 BST (UK) »
I'm glad my guess - reply #2 seems to be a good match


It could be Ulva in Argyll and Bute


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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 April 25 19:51 BST (UK) »
I'm glad my guess - reply #2 seems to be a good match


It could be Ulva in Argyll and Bute


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Yes it's looking interesting I'm just trying to look at the records now.

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 April 25 20:01 BST (UK) »
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Ulva.

Records for Ulva
An island to the west of Mull, in the parish of Kilninian and Kilmore, and the county of Argyll.

There are some birth records (1803-1825), father Alexander McIntyre and mother Dorothy (possibly McDonald), but not for Neil. His DOB c. 1812 fits though.

That's very Interesting because I thought from his daughters names that his mother may have been called Dorothy can you talk me through what you searched to see that.

You have to register (free) on https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-records

Once you've registered you search church records - births and baptisms https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-records/church-registers/church-births-baptisms

Select the Church (default is Church of Scotland)

Type Surname McIntyre

Gender Both

Year Range (leave it)

County/City All

Parish/Congregation scroll down and choose Kilninian

Click Search

I see those now. That's tantalising but no Neil. I also think that he had a brother called Alexander. I can't be 100% but on 1841 census Neil is living in what looks like a hostel in church street Sunderland maybe he had just arrived. There is also an Alexander Mcintyre living there. a few days before Neil Joins the local police force, Alexander Joins, I think that they must be brothers but could be cousins.

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 April 25 20:04 BST (UK) »
What's Alexander's age in this census record?


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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 April 25 20:10 BST (UK) »
What's Alexander's age in this census record?

There is something odd on the census records both of them are shown as 20 but didn't they round ages up and down on the 1841 census? on the police admission records Alexander is shown as being aged 28 Neil is shown as 26.

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 April 25 20:17 BST (UK) »
Yes, I think so. Maybe this is a good sign, if they were brothers that age gap is perfect.

I couldn't find a death record for Alexander McIntyre (father) but the 1851 Census shows Dorothy McIntyre, aged 72, and in the same household Alexander, aged 0 and Dorothy, aged 2.

542/ 1/ 4
Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon
Argyll

Flory (daughter of Alexander McIntyre and Dorothy) married Alexander McQuarie. This is their daughter

   
MCQUARIE
DOROTHY
ALEXANDER MCQUARIE/FLORA MCINTYRE FRMRV79-1
F
04/05/1844
544
20
Kilninian and Kilmore

MCQUARIE
DOROTHY
ALEXANDER MCQUARIE/FLORY MCINTYRE
F
04/05/1844
544
20 / 65
Kilninian and Kilmore

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 06 April 25 20:45 BST (UK) »


There is something odd on the census records both of them are shown as 20 but didn't they round ages up and down on the 1841 census? on the police admission records Alexander is shown as being aged 28 Neil is shown as 26.

In the 1841 census, the age of persons over 15 was supposed to be rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5. For example, a person aged 19 would be listed as 15, a person aged 22 would be listed as age 20, and a person age 59 would be listed as 55.
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 06 April 25 20:57 BST (UK) »
Yes, I think so. Maybe this is a good sign, if they were brothers that age gap is perfect.

I couldn't find a death record for Alexander McIntyre (father) but the 1851 Census shows Dorothy McIntyre, aged 72, and in the same household Alexander, aged 0 and Dorothy, aged 2.

542/ 1/ 4
Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon
Argyll

Flory (daughter of Alexander McIntyre and Dorothy) married Alexander McQuarie. This is their daughter

   
MCQUARIE
DOROTHY
ALEXANDER MCQUARIE/FLORA MCINTYRE FRMRV79-1
F
04/05/1844
544
20
Kilninian and Kilmore

MCQUARIE
DOROTHY
ALEXANDER MCQUARIE/FLORY MCINTYRE
F
04/05/1844
544
20 / 65
Kilninian and Kilmore

I must have looked at the census record before as it was available for me to view. again tantalising particularly now that I can see that Neils father died between 1842 and 1859.

I'm struggling to decipher the other record though I can see John son of Alexander McQuarrie Tailor and of flory Mcintyre was married.?? Married to Who? or am I on the wrong page.

If only I could Link Neil everything else looks perfect.

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this Scottish town is please
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 April 25 21:06 BST (UK) »
I can see the two sons named James (b. 1840 and 1842) and one Dorothy (b. 1844)