Thomas Jones, his wife and son Llanbadoc

[rickjt62]

Hello

My great-great-grandmother's half-brother, WILLIE CHRISTOPHER JONES was baptised at LLANBADOC in Monmouthshire on 4 April 1886, born in Llanbadoc on 26 Feb 1886 (from birth certificate) to Thomas Jones and Esther (nee Wood)

Esther was born in Hoarwithy, Herefordshire in 1861

I have never been able to find a marriage for Thomas & Esther

I cannot find out what happened to Thomas Jones as Esther married to my great-great grandfather William Watkins in Hereford in 1890

Willie Christopher Jones drowned in Coan Pill nr Lydney in 1898

Does anyone have access to the Llanbadoc burial records from 1885 to 1890 - I need to ascertain if Thomas Jones died and was buried there

For information, the Thomas Jones death registered in the Pontypool district June quarter 1887 (11a 90) aged 31 years is not my Thomas Jones


Thank you
Richard

[Milliepede]

I have never been able to find a marriage for Thomas & Esther

Not every couple who lived together actually married.

If they weren't married then Thomas Jones need not have died between 1885-1890.

What was her marital status when she married in 1890? 

[rickjt62]

On her marriage certificate to William Watkins on 23 April 1890 at Hereford Register Office she is a widow

Strangely, the birth cert for Willie Christopher Jones cites PAUL JONES as the father which just adds to the mystery, although I find Paul an unusual christian name for the 1880's

[Milliepede]

Paul Jones?  Does it give an occupation for him on the birth certificate?

I see Thomas Jones was a labourer on the baptism.

[rickjt62]

Labourer

I have checked the only feasible death of a Paul Jones in 1889 aged 50 (King's Norton district) and that is not him either

[rosie99]

Does anyone have access to the Llanbadoc burial records from 1885 to 1890 - I need to ascertain if Thomas Jones died and was buried there

You can register for a free account with FindMyPast, they have those records.  I can't see a burial there for him though

[Milliepede]

I guess it's still possible she wasn't married and said she was a widow for respectability but hard to know 

There are single men called Paul Jones in Monmouthshire in 1881 - where is near to Llanbadoc - is it a small place?

[CaroleW]

The newspaper report of the drowning refers to him as William - aged 13 - stepson of William Watkins.

If his birth was registered as Willie Christopher I would have expected the death reg to be in those names but it’s William

Is Esther shown as nee Wood on the birth cert or as Esther Wood

[rickjt62]

I guess it's still possible she wasn't married and said she was a widow for respectability but hard to know 

There are single men called Paul Jones in Monmouthshire in 1881 - where is near to Llanbadoc - is it a small place?

It's near to Usk