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Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« on: Wednesday 02 April 25 10:27 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone
I have Cyril A Williams b. Q2.1926 Southwark, mother mdn White. I know Cyril married Phyllis Page in 1951 Wood Green and died in 1953 Epping.
 This is the total of what I know so I am hoping some kind person can shed light on his parentage. Searching for Williams/White marriages in prior years has totally confused me, so many ,so fingers crossed someone can point me in the right direction.
Bear - Essex/ London/Middlesex
Fleming - Stockton,Wiltshire,
Gatward - Essex/Middlesex
Haggar/Hagger- Essex/Middlesex
Osborne - Somerset/Lond/Middlesex. CAN/USA
Page -Essex/Hertfordshire/Middlesex/Canada/USA
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Re: Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 10:32 BST (UK) »
It is possible that Cyril's mother was previously married.
The marriage may not have been in her maiden name.
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Re: Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 10:36 BST (UK) »
Is this him? Cyril Arthur Williams found electrocuted in his garden:

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/ba858d28-103b-43bf-88a0-abcc1b9ffe82
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Re: Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 10:41 BST (UK) »
First step would be to get his Birth Certificate, where parents will be named.
Or the Marriage Certificate, where his father will be named.

Then you can check 1921 census and 1939 National Register.
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Re: Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 11:39 BST (UK) »
I can see four other Williams children born Southwark with mmn White, born between 1917 and 1923. They are all on the 1939 Register with their widowed mother. There is one redacted entry who, I guess, is Cyril

Possible marriage
Frank Herbert Williams/Alice Mary White Sep 1908 Islington 1b 672
Smith Tiplady Boulton Branthwaite King Miller Woolfall Bretherton Archer and many more

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Re: Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 12:11 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for such speedy replies.
Yes ShaunJ, sadly that is my uncle 'Ron' as I knew him. I was only a young child at the time and was coming in from school when this happened in our garden shed.
He was the kindest, loveliest of men. Unfortunately I come from a family who never talked about things but I clearly remember to this day this terribly sad incident.
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Fleming - Stockton,Wiltshire,
Gatward - Essex/Middlesex
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Page -Essex/Hertfordshire/Middlesex/Canada/USA
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Re: Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 13:27 BST (UK) »
You can buy a digital copy of his birth cert for £3 which will confirm his parentage

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

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Re: Cyril A.Williams b.1926
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 14:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you, I am not in the UK but will look into what I can do.
Bear - Essex/ London/Middlesex
Fleming - Stockton,Wiltshire,
Gatward - Essex/Middlesex
Haggar/Hagger- Essex/Middlesex
Osborne - Somerset/Lond/Middlesex. CAN/USA
Page -Essex/Hertfordshire/Middlesex/Canada/USA
Rawlings - Lond/Middlesex UK
Woodroff/e -Wiltshire, Lond/Middlesex
Tillcock - Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire