Eltham family of Hinton Waldrist

[LizzieL]

John Eltham and his wife Margaret had three children baptised in Hinton Waldrist - William 1753, Mary 1755 and John 1757. John junior was buried in 1761 in HW. I think William went to Bampton.

There are two earlier burials in HW of a John Eltham and a Mary Eltham. They are both infants and buried on 21 Mar 1751/2. I can't find baptisms for the two so can't find parents, but wonder if they were twin children of John and Margaret who died so soon after birth they were not baptised.

There is a burial of a Margaret Eltham at HW in 1777. No age or relationships recorded, but she might be John's wife.

Can anyone find a marriage for a John Eltham and a Margaret possibly around 1750ish, please and a burial for John..

[Milliepede]

There's a marriage in Oxford 28 Oct 1750 John Eltham Margaret Brown

[LizzieL]

Thank you, that looks very promising.

[ribbo39]

Hi LizzieL,

Adding to "millipedes" post;

The marriage of John Eltham to Margaret Brown was  in Oxford St.Mary Magdalen and by Licence with both from Cowley, Oxon.

John Eltham bapt. 13-4-1729 Buckland, Berks (s/o John & Mary)

Margaret Eltham  who was buried in 1777 was from Buckland.

Are these of any help?

Alan

[LizzieL]

Thank you Alan for confirming Margaret was from Buckland.
But this leaves a problem. I have John Eltham bapt 1729 s/o John and Mary, but I have him marrying Sarah Harris in Buckland on 12 Oct 1757. Unless Mary (the mother) died and this was John snr remarrying. I can't find any children for John and Sarah - which might indicate an older couple. But I can't find a burial for a Mary, unless she was the 1751/2 burial in HW. I have 7 children for her and John in Buckland from 1726 to 1748.

added
Just rechecked the 1751/2 burials, although just a transcript definitely says Mary was an infant so not wife of John snr

[ribbo39]

I'm not sure if these help or hinder your searching;

Buckland, Berks - Marriages;

10-12-1754 Thomas Cooper X  (bac - West Ilsey, Berks) - m - Mary Eltham X (sp) wits; John Eltham Ruth Hulcup (By Licence)


12-10-1756 John Emblem X - m - Sarah Harris X
wits; Michael Moore, Winifred Brown

(John's surname - is that correct or a transcription error  for Eltham??)

Alan

[LizzieL]

Thanks again. John (1729, Buckland) had a sister Mary. The witness could be John snr or jnr. Mary would be 18 if that was her marriage, so would need parental permission.

I think Emblem is probably another version of Eltham, there are over 50! The day and month are the same just the year differs by one. This was only a few years after when the start of the year changed from 25 Mar to 1 Jan, so I wouldn't be surprised if the clerk got confused filling in the register.

[LizzieL]

Unless the John who married Sarah Harris is really Emblem or close variant and Eltham is the bad transcription. That would eliminate him entirely and solve my problem.
So John is born in 1729 in Buckland, marries Margaret Brown, has a few children in HW, moves back to Buckland, where they both eventually die, Margaret in 1777 (buried in HW) and John in 1796 (buried in Buckland).

John and Margaret had a daughter Mary in HW in 1755. Haven't found out what happened to her.
Did she marry John Eaton on 11 May 1778 in Buckland? I had the marriage down for her 1st cousin once removed also called Mary, but the dates fit better for a Mary born in 1755.