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Offline josey

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #9 on: Monday 31 March 25 13:21 BST (UK) »
As I understand it - it should be possible to contact the person uploading or transcribing the FS records via a link on the record on FS. Having said that, I haven't had a reply from the transcriber on the two occasions I have made contact.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #10 on: Monday 31 March 25 13:32 BST (UK) »
The entry is easy to find on Ancestry, FreeBMD and GRO.  However the GRO index doesn't show any year of birth - for some reason it hasn't been transcribed.

The FreeBMD entry, shows the birth with two dashes before the year:  "- - 1942" which would imply that the informant could only give a year and not an exact date of birth, or the age may just have been estimated.

Ordering a certificate would confirm.


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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #11 on: Monday 31 March 25 14:38 BST (UK) »
I am sceptical as I have searched for 1942 births with the two possible surnames and discounted all. That is why I am questioning 1942.

If widening the search beyond 1942 doesn't produce a result, is it possible that the person was born in Scotland, Ireland or elsewhere? 
UK census content is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk  Transcriptions are my own.

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #12 on: Monday 31 March 25 15:20 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage in 1963, with son born the same year.
That was confirmed by a local who knew him and the family.
Considering the dates, 1942 is reasonable in being 21 when married.
If the marriage certificate says he was 21, that could explain the source.
It would help to know the accuracy of 1942.

Once I receive a response from FamilySearch I will post it, though I am not holding out much hope.


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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #13 on: Monday 31 March 25 15:30 BST (UK) »
FamilySearch are only reproducing what is in the index, they won't have anything else.

A 1995 death certificate should also give a place of birth ( if known to the informant).

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #14 on: Monday 31 March 25 15:41 BST (UK) »
FamilySearch say their information is from the index. I am sure it will be the same index FreeBMD, the GRO and Ancestry used, but they have not included a birth year. Where is the FamilySearch birth year from?

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #15 on: Monday 31 March 25 15:53 BST (UK) »
OP says FreeBMD does not give year of birth, but AnthonyMMM in reply #10 states it is "- - 1942", he is no doubt correct.

Surely the only way forward is to get the certificate? This will give informant's name & relationship [this may not be someone who knew person well enough to know accurate date or place of birth - as has been pointed out by Sloe Gin & AnthonyMMM].
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #16 on: Monday 31 March 25 15:55 BST (UK) »
The birth year is in the index, Ancestry, FindMyPast and FreeBMD all show it.

GRO have either got a transcription error, or under the new indexing rules  have left it off because it is estimated.

The only way to know is to get a certificate.

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #17 on: Monday 31 March 25 17:12 BST (UK) »
I think it will be an estimate based on being 21 in 1963 when he married. Up to 1969 the legal age of marriage without consent was 21. My search needs to be treated the same +/- 2 years.