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Offline Talacharn

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Death of Interest
« on: Sunday 30 March 25 23:02 BST (UK) »
I need some clarification. On Family Search I found a death of interest.
The death was in 1995 and it also offers a birth of 1942. They say the information is from England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007. It is the only place his birth is offered. The GRO does not offer an age and birth year. Neither does FreeBMD, and it is not even on his gravestone.

How accurate is that record and birth year?
How can they offer a birth year when other do not?
Is there any way I can read the source information?

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 March 25 23:42 BST (UK) »
Death registrations from 1969 show full birthdate but GRO online just shows the birthyear.  That assumes the person reporting the death had that info

Can you post the full details as it's difficult to give a full explanation without the name etc
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 March 25 00:04 BST (UK) »
That is the issue, the year of birth and/or age is not on any other site only Family Search. It is not on his gravestone. I would like to use the birth year, but question its accuracy. Even if I buy the death certificate, would it offer the date of birth, or even the year, when it is not on the GRO? 

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 March 25 07:35 BST (UK) »
I'm sure you have probably already looked, but Ancestry has they claim, 80% of recent deaths complied from funeral directors and obituary deaths.
For births 1942  death 1995 there are 20 male entries, 17 with birth date, 3 without(only year).
Ancestry  "England & Wales Death Index 1989-2024"

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Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 March 25 11:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Cathy and CaroleW, Having sent PMs and from your replies thanks. If the birth details are not on Ancestry, FreeBMD, the GRO or his grave; how is Family Search able to offer 1942? Where has that information arrived from?

I am sceptical as I have searched for 1942 births with the two possible surnames and discounted all. That is why I am questioning 1942.

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 March 25 11:40 BST (UK) »
Have you checked to see if there was a will? This would confirm maybe full name, actual date of death and address to possibly tie in with the person you are following. Obviously won't give date/year of . What about the main pay websites?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 March 25 12:25 BST (UK) »
On FamilySearch the "England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007" record collection is taken from the GRO indexes (via FindMyPast) so it should be in the GRO index.

If you can't find it it suggests a mis-transcription ( or an alternative name is on the entry).

If you let me have details I can advise further.

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 March 25 12:25 BST (UK) »
That is the issue, the year of birth and/or age is not on any other site only Family Search. It is not on his gravestone. I would like to use the birth year, but question its accuracy. Even if I buy the death certificate, would it offer the date of birth, or even the year, when it is not on the GRO?

Yes, it will give the full date of birth, assuming the informant knew it.  There is always an element of uncertainty around that.  Sometimes the day & month are correct, because people celebrate birthdays, but the year may be wrong.

Are you sure the person was born in England or Wales?

The GRO online is only an index, it does not give full details. The same with FreeBMD.
UK census content is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk  Transcriptions are my own.

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Re: Death of Interest
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 March 25 12:33 BST (UK) »
I have received a PM saying it is not on Ancestry and I have not checked FindMyPast, but a birth year is not on the GRO.
I have looked and there is no Will/Probate.
I am about to send an email to FamilySearch asking for clarification.
Where did they find the birth year?