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Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« on: Saturday 29 March 25 16:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I hope I can get some help here. I recently discovered that the line beyond one of my great-grandmothers was wrong and now having deleted the line I'm trying to find my correct ancestors. I have the following information.

Edith May Miles [my great-grandmother]
B:24 Apr 1890 Bacton, Suffolk, England (location listed on 1921 census)
D:26 May 1959 All Saints Hospital, Chatham, Kent, England
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Ernest William Thomas Miles [my grandfather]
B:29 Mar 1920 Bexley, Kent, England
D:09 Jun 2009 Fareham, Hampshire, England

According to the 1921 census Sarah Miles is listed as her mother, aged 75 and 9 months, with a Stowmarket as the place of birth.

Through the GRO index I have what I believe is Edith's birth which shows her mother's maiden name was Barnard.

MILES, EDITH       BARNARD (Mother's maiden surname)
GRO Reference: 1890  J Quarter in HARTISMERE  Volume 04A  Page 742

However, I've not been able to find a marriage for a Sarah Barnard to a Miles, and therefore Edith's father, nor a birth for Sarah Barnard, so have hit a brick wall.

Any help with tracing Edith's ancestors would be hugely appreciated. Thank you.

Jon.

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Re: Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 March 25 16:19 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Miles could have been married before and widowed so any second marriage wouldn't be as Sarah Barnard.

Can you find Edith with Sarah on any other census?
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Re: Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 March 25 16:23 GMT (UK) »
Possible 1891

William Miles 49
Sarah Elizh 46 wife
Frederick 12 son
Arthur 9 son
George 8 son
Edith 11 months daughter

Now there is a bit of a gap there between the two youngest but can check the birth registrations for the other children to see if they have Barnard
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Re: Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 March 25 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Yes Arthur born 1881 and George born 1883 have Barnard as does Frederick born 1879

Marriage Dec 1863 Stow

William Miles
Sarah Elizabeth Barnard

Birth for Sarah Elizabeth Barnard

Dec 1845 Stow
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Re: Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 March 25 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Only thing is she is just Edith not Edith May - which record do you have that says Edith May please?
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Re: Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 March 25 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Milliepede, thank you so much, that's so helpful. And looking back at my records, I think the "May" as the middle name was an error from records linked to the wrong line where there was another Edith May Miles, so I think that's probably not part of her name after all.

BW, Jon.

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Re: Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 March 25 13:11 BST (UK) »
Bapts St Mary, Bacton

EDITH 05 Feb 1887 (appears to be reg for birth and death March qtr 1887)
GEORGE/ARTHUR/EDITH 15 Jul 1894, born 1 Aug 1884/1 May 1883?/24 April 1890

Parents WILLIAM/SARAH ELIZABETH Miles

Cant see any bapts for children on 1881 Census on  FreeREG

Trish :)
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Re: Help with finding my great-grandmother's parents please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 March 25 15:20 BST (UK) »
Sarah Elizabeth Barnard born Dec 1845 Stow mothers maiden name Warren

Likely 1851 census

Henry Barnard 35 head
Louisa 35 wife
Elisa 9 daughter
Sarah E 5 daughter
Henry 3 son
Samuel 4 months son

The marriage for Sarah and William Miles should confirm her fathers name

In 1861 Sarah 16 is out of the home as a servant

Not seeing a marriage for Henry & Louisa but in 1841 they are together with 1 year old Eliza
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