Registration of Death

[BrianClaydon]

Hello everyone,

I'm not sure this is the right place to post - apologies if it is not. It is regarding a direct line ancestor who was apparently born in Cork Ireland. Her name was Margaret Walsh, born around 1821. I believe she was Roman Catholic and probably married an Edmund D'arcy [1829-1884. Master Bootmaker] possibly around 1846. They lived in the Middlesex region of London from about 1855 until her death sometime before 1866. Edmund continued living in the area and had more children with another lady - whom I believe he only civilly married almost on his deathbed.

I cannot find an RC or Civil marriage for them so far. My question though is this: If a couple married in an RC church, and not in an Anglican one or at a registry office, Would her death registration show D'arcy [Or Darcy/Darcey] or her maiden name of Walsh?

Many thanks for viewing my post, and any help you can offer.

Brian

[MollyC]

Just a note which may be relevant.
I have come across a "Walsh" of Irish Catholic descent, whose earlier spelling in Ireland was "Welsh".

[BrianClaydon]

Hi MollyC,

thank you for your post. That is very true. One of the two registrations of birth for her children in England had the name 'Welsh' recorded.

B

[KGarrad]

A death registered in England or Wales will be under the name the person was known by.
Or, more likely, the name the informant knew them by.

[softly softly]

Brian, looking at the 1861 census the Daughter Margaret was born 1845, do you have her birth cert naming a father. Possible birth

D'ORSY, MARGARET       - 
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01  Page 259

SS

[BrianClaydon]

A death registered in England or Wales will be under the name the person was known by.
Or, more likely, the name the informant knew them by.

Thank you KGarrad, that is very useful. Chances are she would be recorded as a D'arcy then.

B

[BrianClaydon]

Brian, looking at the 1861 census the Daughter Margaret was born 1845, do you have her birth cert naming a father.

D'ORSY, MARGARET       - 
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS  Volume 01  Page 259

SS

Hi Softly Softly,

thank you very much. I've been trawling the GRO for that registration, and two of her siblings for some time now with no success. I have the last two registrations of her children - Thomas & John Valentine, but Margaret, Edward & James have eluded me. This is really useful as I thought they didn't arrive in England until about 1855 based on the Reg. date of Thomas. This probably pushes back their arrival by at least a decade.

I will hop on the GRO website and see what I can find... thanks again.

B

[softly softly]

Only posting this as possible birth of child taken from 1861 census.

If parents did not marry children may have Walsh/Welsh surname.

WALSH, JAMES       -  No Mother's maiden name
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 355

SS

[jonwarrn]

Some catholic baptisms indexed at Soho Square, St Patrick (I don't have access)
Parents Edmund/Edward and Maria/Marie/Mary Welsh (Walsh)
Mother not Margaret

As they are indexed
1843 Jacobus Darcy
1846, born 1845 Edmundus Darcey
1851 Margaret D'Arey
1853 Jacobus D'Arcy
1855 Thomas D'Arcy
1862, born 1861 John Valentine D'Arcy

Edmund Darcy, 30, a shoemaker, in the newspapers in 1854. Also his brother Michael.