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Re: Peter Walker - Norwich / Lowestoft Prison Records - 1901/2
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 March 25 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Maybe a complete red herring, but one to rule out, there maybe others, not checked.

Looking at the Caernarvonshire census for a Peter (no surname) there is a Peter Evans with likely grandparents due to their age.

1871 Bangor
Henry Evans 69 Head
Jane Evans 69 Wife
Peter Evans   10   Son Liverpool

1861 has Poter Evans age 11mths born Birkenhead, with a Henry & Jane. Not sure same family as different address. Possible registration Jun Q 1860 Wirral. No mother maiden so illegitimate.

There is also a John & Ellen/Eleanor living Pwllheli in 1871 with a son Peter b 1859 but surname is Lewis.
 
In my experience if no records show, there has been a truth stretched. Peter may likely be illegitimate and parents unmarried.

Could have easily travelled or lived at Pwllheli after 1871

Genuki - Pwllheli was a sub-port of Beaumaris between 1840 and 1844 and a sub-port of Caernarfon after 1844. The ports were responsible to the Crown for the registration of shipping and the collection of duties on imports; their shipping registers record details of vessels including the owner, the master, changes of owner, and the eventual fate of the vessel...."

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The Lewis name may may be a line worth following.  Peter and Florence's 10th child was Alfred Lewis Walker.  Peter and Florence's 9th child was Peter Robert Walker who emigrated to Canada - and his 5th Child was Donald Lewis Walker.  There was certainly no Lewis ancestor on the Swann side of the family - so it seems odd that the Lewis name crops up twice in Peter's family.   
Stark, Walker, Britteon, Mummery, Watts, Murrell, Moyes, Stirk, Tullos, Swan, Sterry,  Clark(e), Howe, Starling, Purkis, Stubbings, McWilliam,Stevenson, Strachan, McGregor, Littlejohn, Kirkwood, Orr

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Re: Peter Walker - Norwich / Lowestoft Prison Records - 1901/2
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 March 25 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Oddity re the children  all registered Mutford
Alfred William John Walker 1882  mother's maiden name - Swann  (he died 1885)
William George Walker 1884 mother's maiden name Swann
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Alfred Hunn Walker 1886 mother's maiden name Britton (he dies 1892)
Sidney  Owen Walker 1888  mother's maiden name Britton
Rhoda Gertrude Walker 1890  mother's maiden name Britteon
Peter Robert Walker 1892 mother's maiden name  Brittain
Alfred Lewis Walker 1894  mother's maiden name Brittain
Richard Victor Hue 1895  mother's maiden name Britteon
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Baptism at St Margaret's Lowestoft
Parents as Peter and Florence Gertrude Walker
Alfred William John  bap 6 August 1882 - born 25 June 1882
William George   bap. 3 August 1884 - born 3 July 1884
Gertrude Rhoda  bap 16 April 1890
Peter Robert bap 17 June 1892
Richard Hugh bap 3 November 1895
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I found eight children (so far) you have stated there are ten children, six have a different mother's maiden name per GRO Index.

So what was Florence Gertrude's maiden name? Why does it change to Britton(various) after 1884.
Norwich Mercury 3 June 1882.
On 30th Ult at St Margaret's Church, Lowestoft, Peter Walker to Florence Gertrude Swann.
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Notes they maried 30 May 1882 first child born 25 June 1882

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Re: Peter Walker - Norwich / Lowestoft Prison Records - 1901/2
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 March 25 13:12 GMT (UK) »
I think I have it.

Florence Gertrude Swan 1858 is the illegitimate daughter of Mary Ann Swan who married John Britton 1859.

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Re: Peter Walker - Norwich / Lowestoft Prison Records - 1901/2
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 02 April 25 11:58 BST (UK) »
This Peter Walker is the right age - death Mar 1929 West Derby Lancs age 68

Maybe he could be ruled out just in case

When do you last have your Peter alive for definite?  Not in 1921 anywhere?

Can the Charles St or  Marblehall Terrace addresses be found to see if he was at either  :-\

Last definite date for Peter alive is his release from Prison in March 1902.

It's prompted me to search the marriage certificates for two of his other children who were married between 1908 and 1913  children 

There is a census record for a Peter Walker lodging at Milford Haven in 1911 - but the fact that he was a trawl fisherman POB  Liverpool is possibly just a coincidence.

His Son's marriage record from 1915 indicates Father deceased.
My grandmother's marriage record from 1916 also notes Father deceased

The Milford Haven register of electors from 1915 and into the 1920's has a Peter Walker at the various addresses.  He doesn't appear in the 1921 census - but he may possibly have been at sea.  I've not been able to track down that section of the 1921 census.
Stark, Walker, Britteon, Mummery, Watts, Murrell, Moyes, Stirk, Tullos, Swan, Sterry,  Clark(e), Howe, Starling, Purkis, Stubbings, McWilliam,Stevenson, Strachan, McGregor, Littlejohn, Kirkwood, Orr