Thomas Emmett transported to Australia for life in 1834

[judb]

A further record:
New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842 for Thomas Emett -Bound Indentures, 1833-1835
No extra information on this record except that his surname Emmett is crossed out and amended to Emett.

Judith

[sparrett]

Henry O’Brien was well on his way to extensive pastoral ownership by 1830.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2196283

And was assigned convicts from at least 1832
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2208724

Sue

[hanes teulu]

Amused to read under column headed "Particular Scars or Marks" -

"Carrotty whiskers ..."

[MJW]

Thanks everyone for your replies and interest.

The 1849 death age 40 and 1842 pardon is definitely not my Thomas.

I'd noticed from UK newspapers reports a surprising number of Thomas Emmetts sent to Australia in 1830s/40s from Lancashire. Very confusing.

Sparrett - I don't think he died on the voyage. The NSW convict indent lists all convicts who arrived on ship Hive from England on 11 June 1834, and Thomas is listed.
 

Ancestry has this record from:
New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834
Convicts arrived 1833-1834

Thomas Emett
Date of arrival; 11 June, 1834, per ship Hive
Sentence: Life
How disposed of: Henry O'Brien, Yass Plains

Very annoyingly I can only access this record on Ancestry by using the spelling "Emett" - nothing under Emmett

Judith

That is my Thomas!!  I can't find this on Ancestry, maybe outside my subscription from UK. Is that the full entry?  Wonder what "How disposed of" means?

I can't access Australian Archives website at the moment, the website site seems to be down.

Thanks everyone.
 Malcolm

[hanes teulu]

Thanks everyone for your replies and interest.

The 1849 death age 40 and 1842 pardon is definitely not my Thomas.

I'd noticed from UK newspapers reports a surprising number of Thomas Emmetts sent to Australia in 1830s/40s from Lancashire. Very confusing.

Sparrett - I don't think he died on the voyage. The NSW convict indent lists all convicts who arrived on ship Hive from England on 11 June 1834, and Thomas is listed.
 

Ancestry has this record from:
New South Wales, Australia, Settler and Convict Lists, 1787-1834
Convicts arrived 1833-1834

Thomas Emett
Date of arrival; 11 June, 1834, per ship Hive
Sentence: Life
How disposed of: Henry O'Brien, Yass Plains

Very annoyingly I can only access this record on Ancestry by using the spelling "Emett" - nothing under Emmett

Judith

That is my Thomas!!  I can't find this on Ancestry, maybe outside my subscription from UK. Is that the full entry?  Wonder what "How disposed of" means?

I can't access Australian Archives website at the moment, the website site seems to be down.

Thanks everyone.
 Malcolm

That record is one of a half dozen "FindMyPast Australia" records.
I tracked Thomas thru' sentencing, pardon, transfer to the Hulk Ganymede at Woolwich (23 Sep 1833), probable transfer from the Hulk Ganymede to the Hive 23 Dec 1833 (20 convicts transferred in London tho' not named), left Falmouth 8 Feb 1834, two deaths on voyage (not named) and arrived 11 Jun.

"How disposed of" usually means "Where sent and to whom" - but not always. For example, an  entry on the same page reads "Died at Sea".

[hanes teulu]

FindMyPast's "Oz" records appears to have the original ship's muster for the convict ship Hive that took Thomas Emett to NSW. The column headed "Married or Single" shows "M" and the column headed "Family" shows "2".
A separate FindMyPast "Oz" record, which appears to be a typed version of these musters, has interpreted the column headed "Family" as "2 female children." Not clear how it was able to do this? This was also the record that included "carrotty whiskers" which was not on the original!!

The newspapers reports re. Thomas make no mention of a family. He was "25, a spinner and worked for Fielden & Co, spinners at Blackburn." So, I've been chasing a possible marriage and baptisms in the Blackburn area in a fairly narrow time frame given Thomas' age and incarceration date.

The site is "OPC Lancs" -
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

[MJW]

FindMyPast's "Oz" records appears to have the original ship's muster for the convict ship Hive that took Thomas Emett to NSW. The column headed "Married or Single" shows "M" and the column headed "Family" shows "2".
A separate FindMyPast "Oz" record, which appears to be a typed version of these musters, has interpreted the column headed "Family" as "2 female children." Not clear how it was able to do this? This was also the record that included "carrotty whiskers" which was not on the original!!

The newspapers reports re. Thomas make no mention of a family. He was "25, a spinner and worked for Fielden & Co, spinners at Blackburn." So, I've been chasing a possible marriage and baptisms in the Blackburn area in a fairly narrow time frame given Thomas' age and incarceration date.

The site is "OPC Lancs" -
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Thanks hanes teulu. I'd already seen the ships muster for convict ship Hives that you mention showing Thomas married with 2 children,  it's on Ancestry (I don't have a FindmyPast subscription), but I hadn't seen any record that mentions 2 female children.  However, this is correct. He married Bridget Johnson in 1829 in Chorley. Lancashire, and they had 2 daughters Mary Anne Emmett b. 1830 (baptised Oct. 1830) and Elizabeth b.1832 (baptised Nov.1842 aged 10 years).  Bridget also gave birth to a son Richard Emmett in 1837 but no father is named on his baptism record.  Richard Emmett is my great grandfather.

[Neale1961]

There is a record of Thomas EMMETT of "Hive" having a NSW prisoners Savings Bank book.
It shows £2 (and interest) but does not show that it was ever accessed to have funds withdrawn.

I could not see Thomas Emmett per "Hive" in the 1841 NSW census, nor the 1837 general convict muster.

Perhaps he died just a few years after arriving in NSW.

Thomas Emett
Date of arrival; 11 June, 1834, per ship Hive
Sentence: Life
How disposed of: Henry O'Brien, Yass Plains

FYI some history on Henry O'Brien. His farm at Yass Plains was called "Douro".
https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/obrien-henry-2515

[hanes teulu]

MJW - thanks for the update about Thomas "pre OZ". I had identified 2 possible marriages - "Thomas, a spinner and a Mary Duxbury" and "Thomas, a spinner and a Bridget Johnson" but was struggling to determine which was "your" Thomas. Glad I'm not a betting man - I think I would have lost my money.

Under the category "Australia Convict Ships 1786-1849" FindMyPast has 2 entries for Thomas Emett -
1. the original ship's muster appears under "Indents 1788-1842 (Nrs 12188)"
2. a printed version appears under "Office Copies of Printed Indents 1831 - 1842 (Nrs 12189)". The printed version carries the additional info "2 female children" under "Family".

Good luck with the search.