Handwriting help - Birth place

[JLo]

Following on from PatLac's post there is a Certificate of Arrival on 3 November 1857 for a Moritz Loewenthal arriving in Dover from Germany via Calais. Doesn't specify where in Germany he came from, just that he had a German Passport. Moritz is, of course, German for Maurice or Morris.

Have you looked for any Naturalisation Papers?

Link for those who have access to Ancestry:

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01tql/

I have looked for naturalisation papers. I did find a Moses Loewenthal and got very excited (!) but it wasn't him. This arrival is quite interesting, particularly as it has a signature. The only other signature I have is this one. It is similar but does not have the squiggle at the end, but goes back and crosses over the 't' so I don't think it's the same person. What do you think?

[JLo]

This is the signature on the arrivals doc

[PatLac]

I thought I read "bag maker" and then I saw the transcript "pocket book maker", but it seems that he was a bag manufacturer after all.

ADJUDICATIONS IN BANKRUPTCY

... — J. H. Dewar, M. Loewenthal, and J. Jordan, Farringdon-road, bag manufacturers ; so far as concerns M. Lowenthal—  ...

Published: Wednesday 20 September 1871
Newspaper: Morning Post
County: London, England


If A. E. Loewenthal was his son Albert Edward Loewental (1868-1939), maybe this newspaper article can shed a light on his origins? (I don't have a britishnewspaperarchive subscription)

PERSONAL

... A. E. Lowenthal, the presiding genius of the Leatheries, Ltd., Henstead Street, Birmingham, has been connected with the leather trade ...

Published: Saturday 11 May 1901
Newspaper: Cycling
County: London, England

[PatLac]

The LOWENTHAL Anatomical Saddle. Perfect in Design, Workmanship

... PRICE 16/6 1 I DROP A LINE FOR CATALOGUE. SEE OUR Special '97 Saddles, Gear Cases, & Trouser Clips. The Leatheries, Ltd., Cregoe Street, Birmingham. ...

Published: Saturday 16 January 1897
Newspaper: Cycling
County: London, England

Henstead St., Bromsgrove St., BIRMINGHAM, sth March, 1904. Cycling, We are very pleased with the result of our ..

... take this opportunity of testifying to the value of an advertisement in your paper. We are, Yours faithfully, For The Leatheries, Ltd., ALBERT E. LOWENTHAL, Man. Dir ...

Published: Wednesday 23 March 1904
Newspaper: Cycling
County: London, England

[PatLac]

His other son, Gustave Joseph Loewenthal (1879-1941).

Motor cycle
Publication date 1903
Topics Motorcycles, Motorcycle racing
Publisher London : 'The Motor Cycle'


Benevolent  Fund  Concert.

The  twelfth  Bohemian concert of  the
Cycle  and  Motor  Trades  Benevolent  Fund
in  connection  with  the  Birmingham  Centre
will  be  held  at  the  Temperance Hall,
Temple  Street.  Birmingham,  on  Friday,
February  4th.  Tickets  are  obtainable  from
Mr.  G.  J.  Lowenthal,  The  Leatheries,
Sampson  Road  North,  Sparkbrook,  and
Mr.  A.  Hickstepp,  10a;  Temple  Row.
Birmingham.

https://archive.org/details/motorcycle26lond_/page/n133/mode/2up?q=lowenthal

[PatLac]

If this is his other son, Henry Samuel Loewenthal (1872-1925), does Wurzburg ring a bell?

THE WIFE'S SISTER BILL, THE EDITOR

... OF LONDON.—The following candidates have passed in Surgery :—T. S. Biggs, Guy's ; F. L. Blenkinsop, University Coll. ; H. S. Loewenthal,Wurzburg, C. A. Marrett, Charingcross Hospital ; J. P. Herne, Bellevue, New York...

Published: Monday 25 June 1894
Newspaper: Evening Mail
County: London, England



Were the Loewenthal Ashkenazi jews? From Wikipedia:

"The Hep-Hep riots from August to October 1819 were pogroms against Ashkenazi Jews, beginning in the Kingdom of Bavaria, during the period of Jewish emancipation in the German Confederation. The antisemitic communal violence began on August 2, 1819, in Würzburg and soon reached the outer regions of the German Confederation. Many Jews were killed, and much Jewish property was destroyed."

[PatLac]

I think Henry Samuel was a tobacconist manager, according to the 1901 Census, so maybe he's not the surgeon from the newspaper article.

If that's the case I suppose this is his mother?

London Trade's Directory

page 1913 TRADES' DIRECTORY, 1882. TOB[acconists]

Loewenthal Mrs. Elizabeth, 116 London rdS E

[PatLac]

One Löwenthal family of Friesack:

"Der Vater des Kindes, Abraham Löwenthal ist am 17t.April 1816 als Sohn des Liebmann Löwenthal und der Jette Samuel in Friesack geboren. (BLHA Rep.8 Friesack 2005) Er findet sich auch in den Listen der Wahlberechtigten zur Repräsentantenwahl für die Jahre 1860 / 1861 und wird dort als Kaufmann angegeben. Danach gibt es keinen weiteren Nachweis von ihm.

Aus der Familie Löwenthal stammt auch der Maler des Familienbildes der Salomons, welches um 1845 entstand. Dabei dürfte es sich um  Samuel Löwenthal (3.11.1825 – 5.10.1900) handeln, welcher als Zeichenlehrer an der Berliner Knabenschule der jüdischen Gemeinde tätig war."


https://quitzow-kurier.de/Friedhof.htm

Google translation:

The child's father, Abraham Löwenthal, was born on April 17, 1816, the son of Liebmann Löwenthal and Jette Samuel in Friesack. (BLHA Rep. 8 Friesack 2005) He also appears on the lists of eligible voters for the representative elections for the years 1860/1861 and is listed there as a merchant. There is no further evidence of him after that.

The painter of the Salomons' family portrait, created around 1845, also comes from the Löwenthal family. He is likely Samuel Löwenthal (November 3, 1825 – October 5, 1900), who worked as an art teacher at the Berlin boys' school of the Jewish community.

[JLo]

One Löwenthal family of Friesack:

"Der Vater des Kindes, Abraham Löwenthal ist am 17t.April 1816 als Sohn des Liebmann Löwenthal und der Jette Samuel in Friesack geboren. (BLHA Rep.8 Friesack 2005) Er findet sich auch in den Listen der Wahlberechtigten zur Repräsentantenwahl für die Jahre 1860 / 1861 und wird dort als Kaufmann angegeben. Danach gibt es keinen weiteren Nachweis von ihm.

Aus der Familie Löwenthal stammt auch der Maler des Familienbildes der Salomons, welches um 1845 entstand. Dabei dürfte es sich um  Samuel Löwenthal (3.11.1825 – 5.10.1900) handeln, welcher als Zeichenlehrer an der Berliner Knabenschule der jüdischen Gemeinde tätig war."


https://quitzow-kurier.de/Friedhof.htm

Google translation:

The child's father, Abraham Löwenthal, was born on April 17, 1816, the son of Liebmann Löwenthal and Jette Samuel in Friesack. (BLHA Rep. 8 Friesack 2005) He also appears on the lists of eligible voters for the representative elections for the years 1860/1861 and is listed there as a merchant. There is no further evidence of him after that.

The painter of the Salomons' family portrait, created around 1845, also comes from the Löwenthal family. He is likely Samuel Löwenthal (November 3, 1825 – October 5, 1900), who worked as an art teacher at the Berlin boys' school of the Jewish community.

This is quite an interesting family and is a good possibility for my family. I had a good look at BLHA Rep. 8 Friesack 2005 and Liebmann Lowenthal seems to be a haberdasher/textiles merchant who had 5 children up to the year 1820. I will have to have a look and see if I can find anything else about this family. It would be really good to find if they had anymore children after 1820.

Goodness knows where you found this, but thank you!