William Morris born 1858 in Asterley, Shropshire

[scarboroughsarah]

Hi

Can anyone help me locate a William Morris who states he was born in Asterley, Shropshire in 1858 on the 1901 census (but Liverpool, Lancashire on the 1891 census!).
He married an Ann Rowson (born in Bishops's Castle in 1858) but I cannot find a record of his birth, her birth or their marriage definitively!
They moved to Liverpool, Lancashire and may have married there instead of Shropshire possibly....
The only marriage I can find between a William Morris and a lady whose surname is Rowson is one in 1881 but she is called Alice Ann Rowson, not just Ann Rowson so I don't feel it's the right one....

Is anyone else researching this William Morris or Ann Rowson and can shed any light/evidence on this please?
Thanks

[Comberton]

See this thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890419.msg7642400#msg7642400

[scarboroughsarah]

Thanks Comberton.
Although there are possible William Morris' born in Shropshire I cannot find one that is specifically from Asterley as yet.....
I'm hopeful someone out there has him as a relative too and has positive evidence of it being him....

Although I found a marriage between a William Morris and an Alice Ann Rowson, I just can't believe that someone who was baptised as Ann Rowson then stated their name as Alice Ann upon marriage and then was again known as Ann once married (Morris)!

Has anyone found other examples of this in their tree?
Thanks again 

[softly softly]

Info/Possible

1861 census- 1863 15 24 Hale Hurst, Pontesbury, Atcham, Shropshire, England

John   Morris   Head   Married   Male   56   1805   Agricultural labourer   Shropshire, England
Mary   Morris   Wife   Married   Female   36   1825   -   Pontesbury, Shropshire, England
Jane   Hughe   Daughter   Unmarried   Female   16   1845   -   Pontesbury, Shropshire, England
Fanny   Morris   Daughter   -   Female   7   1854   -   Pontesbury, Shropshire, England
William   Morris   Son   -   Male   3   1858   -   Westbury, Shropshire, England

Pontesbury is 2 miles from Asterley

MORRIS, FANNY       HUGHES 
GRO Reference: 1853  D Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 517

MORRIS, WILLIAM       HUGHES 
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in ATCHAM  Volume 06A  Page 550

Parents married 1848 Atcham

SS

[softly softly]

It's interesting that Ann/Alice Ann has a brother Orlando Rawson bc1852 and after marriage William Morris and Ann have a son Orlando.

SS

[DCB]

Just found the same.

Errors on marriage certificates are not uncommon, particularly if the couple can't read. In this case, they both made a mark and may not have realised the mistake.

I have recently found an additional middle name added to my father-in-law's baptism, but on no other records.

Her father's name is the same as the baptism.

She had a brother, Orlando, and witnesses on his marriage were William and Ann Morris. Again, all made marks.

[softly softly]

Just found the same.

Errors on marriage certificates are not uncommon, particularly if the couple can't read. In this case, they both made a mark and may not have realised the mistake.

I have recently found an additional middle name added to my father-in-law's baptism, but on no other records.

Her father's name is the same as the baptism.

She had a brother, Orlando, and witnesses on his marriage were William and Ann Morris. Again, all made marks.

Well found re the marriage with witnesses.

SS

[scarboroughsarah]

Thanks everyone for your input.

On the baptism record for Ann Rowson in 1858 Clun there is no father's or mother's name just Ann Rowson 1858 Clun 6a 533. How do you see the father's name without ordering a certificate. Would a birth certificate from 1858 have that info on it do you think?? :-)

[emeltom]

Ann and brother Orlando both have mmn Francis on the GRO Ref for their births. There is a marriage in Shrewsbury 17 May 1850 between a William Rowson and an Amelia Francis. GRO Ref is Jun 1850 Shrewsbury 18 300. Amelia's name is down as Emilia