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Place of birth on census
« on: Sunday 23 March 25 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Evening everyone,
I'm hoping someone could help identify the place of birth on an 1861 census. It's clear that the place is somewhere in Ireland but the place itself is hard to read, I'd be grateful for opinions on what the place shows as.
Many thanks everyone.

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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 March 25 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps Kingstown?
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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 March 25 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Kingston? There is one in County Galway and another in County Dublin.

re heywood's post there are three Kingstowns - again in Counties Galway, Dublin and Offaly.

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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 March 25 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the swift replies. The confusing part is the same person lists County Monaghan as their place of birth in a later census but to my knowledge there isn't a Kingston or Kingstown in County Monaghan.


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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 March 25 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Two ideas occur to me:

There are two people listed in the census snippet, both with the same birthplace. Is that also Co. Monaghan for both in the later census?

Have you checked for baptisms in the various Kingston/Kingstown locations?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 March 25 01:25 GMT (UK) »
Are you able to give us the names of the people you are searching for please?

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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 March 25 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both for the latest replies. I've attached a full snippet including the names. So the ancestor I'm specifically interested in is Rosa Hamill (her first name seems to vary in different records i.e. Rose Ann / Rosanna etc). You'll also see Rosa's mother on this census and her mother Mary's maiden name was Reilly. Rosa's father was Michael Hamill.
Rosa and sister Mary appear together on the 1871 census and both have indeed put County Monaghan as their place of birth. Rosa has a son Patrick McCue born 1868 in tow and she did go on to marry Patrick's father (who was also Patrick McCue).
I once heard that those from remote areas of Ireland would put the nearest town as their place of birth, is there any truth to that? If Rosa and family put Kingston/Kingstown on the 1861 census and were actually born in County Monaghan (according to the 1871 census) perhaps they intended to put Kingscourt (which is just across the Monaghan border with County Cavan) and simply mistook the name Kingscourt for Kingston/Kingstown?
I have noticed there were a number of Hamill and Reilly families within the Magheracloone parish of Monaghan.

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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 March 25 17:12 GMT (UK) »

I once heard that those from remote areas of Ireland would put the nearest town as their place of birth, is there any truth to that?

I think there is.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Place of birth on census
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 March 25 22:25 GMT (UK) »

I once heard that those from remote areas of Ireland would put the nearest town as their place of birth, is there any truth to that?

I think there is.

Or perhaps the nearest town that was their market town as that would be better known.