Can anyone help

[JacobusV]

Not deserted, being Dad to a 6 and 8 year old with a partner in the medical profession lol.

J

[JacobusV]

It is exciting, it now reveals I also have English and potentially Welsh blood. If Eliza Langley is anything to go by.

J

[Neale1961]

William Webb Regiment number 1919, born abt 1850 Holcombe Somerset
Deserted at Dover from 6th foot regiment on 3 Oct 1877   

If we consider the deserter William, then this is his baptism.

William Webb baptised 25 Jan 1852 Holcombe Somerset
Parents Thomas Webb (agricultural labourer) and Eliza

His birth registration however records his name as “William George”.

Birth registration  (available for £3 digital download)
WEBB, WILLIAM  GEORGE                                   Mother’s maiden name MOOR 
GRO Reference: 1852  M Quarter in SHEPTON MALLET  Volume 05C  Page 607


His sister Priscilla Webb born 1847, registered SHEPTON MALLET (mother Moor)
She was baptised 19 Mar 1848 Holcombe Somerset.


It is a rather complicated family because both William’s mother and his father had previous marriages, and numerous children to their first marriages. So William had many half-siblings as well as his sister.
Hopefully you can follow the family as I outline in my next posts below    ……………

[Neale1961]

The WEBB family (1 year before William George was born)
•   1851 census Holcombe, Edford Green.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGGG-WF8?lang=en

•   1861 census William Webb age 9, with mother Eliza, and his sister and ½ sisters living in Shepton Mallet.
•   Thomas Webb (the father) is in 1861 census - working away from home.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7NZ-TLJ?lang=en


Thomas WEBB (the father) was buried 25 March 1863 Holcombe (age 66)
Therefore, young William George was about 11 years old when his father died.


•   1871 census mother Eliza Webb is in Walcot with some daughters – no sign of son William.               
(I suspect son William George joined the military sometime before 1871 – perhaps at age 18, or earlier if he lied about his age when he enlisted) 

•   1881 census mother Eliza Webb is in Walcot, with daughter Caroline

•   1891 census mother Eliza Webb is in Lyncombe and Widcombe, with daughter Caroline

•   Death for Eliza Webb registered in Bath 1892 (age 78)


William’s mother Eliza MOOR (MOORE) married Thomas LANGLEY in 1828 Kilmersdon, Somerset.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58185e51e93790eb7fabb91b/eliza-moore-thomas-langley-marriage-somerset-kilmersdon-1828-05-25?locale=en
Her husband Thomas Langley died Feb 1840 in Holcombe.
-   Langley children:- James 1828, William 1831- 1832 , Israel 1833, Eliza 1841, Caroline 1842 (illegitimate).


Widow Eliza LANGLEY (nee Moore) married widower Thomas WEBB in 1847 Holcombe.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/67f06affb18f7ce2197a2cb8/eliza-langley-thomas-webb-marriage-somerset-holcombe-1847-08-08?locale=en


Thomas WEBB had previously married Sarah NORMAN in 1816
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818591fe93790eb7fa21c6d/sarah-norman-thomas-webb-marriage-somerset-chilcompton-1816-11-18?locale=en
His wife Sarah died (age 45) in Holcombe 1842
They had a very big family :–  James 1819, Ann 1821, Joseph 1823, Mary 1825, John 1827, Thomas 1830, Sarah 1832, Richard 1835, Dorcas 1836.
1841 census https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ14-GCT?lang=en

[Neale1961]

Taking both family lines back a bit further ---------


Eliza Webb / Langley / nee MOORE baptism 17 Mar 1811 Kilmersdon Somerset
-   Her father Enoch MOORE a coal miner and mother Betty LANGLEY (married 1798)
-   Enoch Moore burial 4 Dec 1825 Kilmersdon, age 52
-   Enoch Moore baptised 1776 Kilmersdon, son of William MOORE and Dianna nee DOORE (married 1775)

(In the Moore family there seems to be some use of the old biblical names like Enoch, Israel, Abraham, Isaac, etc. Perhaps this is where the name Eli comes from?)

Enoch MOORE married Betty LANGLEY 1798 Kilmersdon
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58185e40e93790eb7fab922a/betty-langly-enoch-moor-marriage-somerset-kilmersdon-1798-06-11?locale=en

Children of Enoch and Betty MOOR:-
Baptised Kilmersdon: Sarah 1798, Hester 1801, Diana 1803, Elizabeth 1805, Abraham 1808, Eliza 1811, Caroline 1815-1818


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Thomas WEBB baptised 27 Apr 1796 Holcombe to parents Benjamin and Ann WEBB
     – Benjamin Webb of Cranmore and widow Ann Sperring were married 1792 in Holcombe. 
                  [Ann may have been Ann COTTLE who married in 1784, a James Sperring.]
-   Benj and Ann are in 1841 census in Holcombe. He is a publican of the Edford Inn.
-   Benjamin died in 1842 in Holcombe, age 79. Burial 30 Aug 1842 in West Cranmore which was his home parish.

[JacobusV]

Really appreciate your help Neale1961, this really is a brick wall buster!

J

[JacobusV]

Regards the biblical names, it's echoed down the years, my fathers brothers were called Samuel and Eli, my own sons are called Samuel and Noah.

Funny how trends in families can echo through the ages.

J

[Neale1961]

If you are looking to further your research into the Webb family, there are some records at the Somerset Archives.
The Will of Benjamin would be useful to follow family relationships.

[Neale1961]

POSTING CORRECTIONS to reply #48 (07 April 25) regarding census records & death of Eliza.

•   1871 census mother Eliza Webb is Shepton Mallet with daughter Priscilla now married to William SANSOM – no sign of son William.               
(I suspect son William George joined the military sometime before 1871 – perhaps at age 18, or earlier if he lied about his age when he enlisted) 

•   1881 census mother Eliza Webb is in Shepton Mallet with Priscilla.

•   Possible death for Eliza Webb registered in Shepton Mallet (age 79) in 1884.