Horace GRUNDRY

[ShaunJ]

Horace John and Maud Lilian Gundry are in Kent in the 1921 census. He is a mining engineer from Kalgoorlie. So definitely not the right Horace!

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC%2F1921%2FRG15%2F04261%2F0411&parentid=GBC%2F1921%2FRG15%2F04261%2F0411%2F02

[seeds ltd]

Just found him leaving Liverpool on 11 Dec 1918 for Seccondee, Ghana, West Africa (gold mining)

[Dundee]

There are 2 Horace Gundry's (NO MIDDLE NAME) the one i am look at DID NOT GO TO AUS

If he isn't the same person then why did the WA family make a claim on his pension?

GUNDRY Horace - 3839 Military Foot Police [also served as 10574 Scots Guards] [dependant's claim]

Contents date range:   1932 - 1933
Series number:   PP2/11
Title: British pension files, 1914/18 War, single number series with 'BP' prefix [includes pre-World War 1 pensioners & some Boer War pensioners, both British and Australian]
Accumulation dates:   01 Jul 1920 -
Contents dates:   1901 - 1985
Agency/person recording:    01 Jul 1920 - 05 Oct 1976
CA 880, Deputy Commissioner of Repatriation, Western Australia

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

There is no birth registration for a Horace GUNDRY in Western Australia.

Debra 

[seeds ltd]

Horace was b in Clun Shropshire Dec 1883, have no idea why there was a claim, could it be that after he left UK his wife had no money

[ShaunJ]

It does seem quite a coincidence to have two Horace Gundrys of the same age who were both gold mining engineers, and two wives claiming army pensions in respect of the same military policeman. Was he leading a double life?

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=30814130&isAv=N

[ShaunJ]

Do you have his signature from his marriage to Alice (or any other document)?

[mckha489]

It is interesting in 1911, 1921 & 1939 Alice described herself as married
And at wedding of Doris Lilian https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/ebef04fb-f527-488c-bd9a-2beccc9ad9c4
Horace is implied to be living in Shrewsbury although he didn’t give Doris away.

[heywood]

Just found him leaving Liverpool on 11 Dec 1918 for Seccondee, Ghana, West Africa (gold mining)

Is he definitely your Horace Gundry?

There is a Liverpool arrival - Horace Gundry,  16th July 1918 , on the Buruta ship from Sekondi.
Address shown is 21 High Street, Willesden Green

[mckha489]

FindMyPast has the document recording the  transfer from the Scots Guard to the Military Police

there are two addresses - the first for his wife Alice 20 Pennerley Rd, Minsterly, nr Shrewsbury, Salop
then there is a second address that looks like - Brishing Mill, Boughton-Am-Money, Maidstone, Kent

on the ship (Osterley) to Australia in October 1921 Maud Lilian Gundry gave birth to a daughter. Joan Osterley Gundry
The address recorded on the ships record of births is Bushing Hill, Boughton, Maidstone Kent.
record set on Ancestry
 UK, Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea, 1891-1922

(address at 1921 is Brishing Hill, Broughton Monchelsea)

Seems to me that that, coupled with the pension record shows it is the same man.