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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 March 25 13:59 GMT (UK) »
The first clip.

James Thomson At Hamilton the twelth day of November Jajvij &c fourteen yeirs The sasine
underwrytne was produced by John [        ] wryter in Hamilton & reg[ist]rat the s[ai]d Day
wherof the tennor followes

In the name of God Amen Be it known to all men by this pr[esen]t publick instrument that upon the
Eighth day of October in ye yeir of ye Incarnatione of our lord god Jajvij &c fourteen & of our
                                                                                                           Sov[ereign Lo[rd] the
kings reigne the first yeir In presence of me nottar publick & witnesses heirto sub[  ]ing Compeired
                                                                                                                        personaly upon
ye ground of ye Lands underwrytne James Thomson eldest law[fu]ll sone to James Thomson eldest
                                                                                                                       law[fu]ll son to
James Thomson por[tion]or of glentore Haveing & Holding in his hands ane contract of mariadge
                                                                                                                              containing
the dispositione & precept of sasine underwrytne yrintill made & perfited betwixt ye s[ai]d James
                                                                                                                             Thomsone

NB. Jajvij &c = 1700. Jajvij &c fourteen = 1714.

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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 March 25 20:13 GMT (UK) »
The second clip

younger with ye special advyce & consent of ye s[ai]d James Thomsone elder his father & ye s[ai]d
                                                                                                                  James Thomsone
elder for himself & his own interest y[e]rinspe[cife]it with advyce of his s[ai]d sone And they both
                                                                                                                  with one advyce
consent and assent one (= on) the ane pairt and Anna stone fourt law[fu]ll dau[ghte]r to Henry
                                                                                                      stone in [                 ] with
consent of her s[ai]d father & ye s[ai]d Henry stone for himself & his own right & interest
                                                                                        y[e]rinexprest with consent of his said
dau[ghte]r And they both with ane consent of ye oy[e]r pairt of ye date at Casseyend of Eastfield
                                                                                                            the last day of July last
bypast in ye yeir Jajvij &c fourteen fors[ai]d wherby & in respect of q[uhi]ch mariadge & oy[e]r
                                                                                                 causes [         ] ye s[ai]d James
Thomsone elder sold annalzied & disponed frae him & all oy[e]rs his airs & assigneys to and in
                                                                                                        favour of ye s[ai]d James
Thomsone younger his sone & ye children ane or moe to be procreat betwixt him & ye s[ai]d Anna
                                                                                                                      stone his future
spouse q[uhi]lks failzeing to ye s[ai]d James Thomsone younger his aither oy[e]r airs & assigneys
                                                                                                     whatsomever hered[itab]ly
& Irredeemably but any manner of revertione redemptione or regress (with & under ye
                                                                                                                         reservationes
& burdens aftirmentioned) All & haill y[a]t ye s[ai]d James Thomson elder his fifteen shilling land (of
                                                                                                                              old extent)
of easterglentore with houses biggings yeards mosses muirs meadows pasturadge grass coall &
                                                                                                                    lymestone pairts
pendicles & haill pertinents y[ai]rof whatsomever & as ye samen are all pr[esent]ly possest by ye
                                                                                                             s[ai]d James Thomson
elder & younger & y[ai]r tenents Comprehending y[ai]r haill lands lying within ye paroch of
                                                                                                                   Eastermunckland

NB. Jajvij &c = 1700. Jajvij &c fourteen = 1714.

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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 March 25 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Sincere thanks for this work GR2. I would never had got there. Could I ask what handwriting the document is written in please?

I admit to being quite confused to the content so will need to work on it!

Many thanks again

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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 March 25 23:50 GMT (UK) »
As usual, especially with place-names, a word that's not 100% clear at the start appears again later on and is obvious. From the third clip, the place I left blank in the previous two clips is Glentore. I have gone back and filled them in.

This is not really secretary hand, which you would find in the 16th and into the 17th centuries, but just a more modern style developed through the 17th and into the 18th century. The language is different from earlier documents too. Earlier you would only find quhilk (= which), but here you get both quhilk and which. Earlier you would get "thir" where this document uses "these".


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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 March 25 00:42 GMT (UK) »
The third clip (first part)

and sherifedome of Lanerk In ye q[uhi]lk lands & oy[e]rs y[e]rby disponed lying & possesit as s[ai]d is
                                                                                                           ye s[ai]d James Thomson
elder y[e]rby band & obleidged him his airs & successors to duely & law[fu]lly infeft & sease ye s[ai]d
                                                                                                         James Thomson younger &
his fors[ai]ds Whilks failzeing as s[ai]d is hered[itab]ly & Irredeemably (under ye reservations &
                                                                                                                 burdens particularly
y[e]rinspe[cifie]d & y[a]t by double infeftments bearing the holding with warrandice in manner
                                                                                             speci[fie]d in ye s[ai]d contract as
ye samen of ye date fors[ai]d containing ye s[ai]d precept with ye precept of sasine heirafterinsert
                                                                                                                           with severall
other clausses & conditions be (= by) aither party [  ] oy[e]rs hinc inde y[e]rintill more fully
                                                                                                       proports Which contract of
Mariage ye s[ai]d James Thomson presented & delyvered to Andrew Dick of campston Baillie in y[a]t
                                                                                                                                      pairt
by ye precept of sasine y[e]rin & underwryten specialy constitute requireing him to execute ye office
                                                                                                                               of bailliary
Incumbent to him y[e]rby Which desyre being reasonable ye s[ai]d Baillie was willing to grant &
                                                                                                                      took the fors[ai]d
Contract of Mariage in his hands & delyvered ye samen to me nottar publick heretosub[scri]ving
                                                                                                                          who read &
published in audience & presence of ye witnesses afternamed & q[uhi]ch I did & of q[uhi]ch precept
                                                                                                                   of sasine ye tennor

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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 March 25 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Third clip (second part)

followes & is thus And to ye efect ye s[ai]d James Thomson younger maybe the more conveniently
                                                                                                                          infeft & seast
in ye s[ai]ds Lands & pertinents y[e]rof fors[ai]d to be holdne of ye s[ai]d James Thomson elder his
                                                                                                      father & his fors[ai]ds of his
imediat law[fu]ll superiors in manner a[fore]wrytne ye s[ai]d James Thomsone elder desyres &
                                                                                                               requires you Andrew
Dick of Campston [   ] or any of you con[junct]lly &  se[ver]ally his Baillies in y[a]t pairt spe[ci]ally
                                                                                                       constitute y[a]t upon sight
heirof ye passe to ye ground of any pairt of ye fors[ai]ds Lands of glentore & y[e]r give here[tabi]ll
                                                                                                 state & sasine with possessione
corporeal and actwall & reall of all & haill ye fors[ai]d fifteen shill[ing] Land (of old extent) of easter
                                                                                                                            glentore with
howses biggings yeards mosse muirs meadows pasturadge grass & coall & lymestone pairts
                                                                                                            pendicles & pertinents
y[e]rof whatsomever possest & lying as s[ai]d is Comprehending as afors[ai]d to ye s[ai]d James
                                                                                           Thomson younger or his fors[ai]ds
or to his certain actorney or actorneys ane or moe in his name bearer or bearers heirof by
                                                                                                            delyverance of earth
and stone of the ground of any pairt of ye s[ai]ds Lands a[fore]ment[ion]ed as use is to be holdne &
                                                                                                   with & under the reservatione
and burding particularly a[fore]settdoun Conforme to ther p[rese]nts & infeftments to follow
                                                                                                              heirupon in all poynts
and this on no way ye leave undone ye q[uhi]lk to doe ye s[ai]d James Thomson elder commits to
                                                                                                   you con[junct]lly & se[ver]ally
his Baillies in y[a]t pairt fors[ai]d his full & irrevocable power by y(i)r p[rese]nts In witnes q[uhai]rof
                                                                                            y(i)r p[rese]nts (wrytne be patrick
stone clerk of Torphichen) & [  ] one marginal note place day moneth & year of god fors[ai]d Before
                                                                                                                        these witnesses
James Thomsone of Bogsyde William Waddel of Eastermoffat & ye s[ai]d patrick stone sic
                                                                                                   sub[scribi]tur James Thomsone

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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 March 25 07:50 GMT (UK) »
You're doing an amazing job GR2. I am away from today but will join in when I can, maybe ThumbelinaPM will post more of them and we can split them up between us!
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 March 25 11:42 GMT (UK) »
This is amazing! I have had these sasines for years and never managed to find out what they say!

I am so grateful.

I will post more in case you both have time, there is no rush! But I understand completely if not.

I am hoping in time that they will link to each other as the land moves from one person to another. I have several Portioners in my Thomsons relating to Easter Glentore.

Thank you again.

Next is RS18-140-141

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Re: Sasines - Lanarkshire
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 March 25 00:59 GMT (UK) »
Fourth clip (first part)

(Some parts have to be reconstructed as the right hand edge is tightly bound.)

younger Anna Stone James Thomsone elder Henry Stone John Thomson witnes W[illia]m Waddell
                                                                                                                  witnes Pa[: Stone?]
after ye reading & publishing of the q[uhi]ch Contract of Mariage & dispositione & precept of sasine
                                                                                                                    a[for]insert y[e]rin
ye s[ai]d Andrew Dick Baillie in y[a]t pairt fors[ai]d by ye power & vertue of his office gave &
                                                                                         delyvered here[tabi]ll state & [sasine]
with possessione corporall actwall & reall of all & haill ye s[ai]d fifteen shill[ing] Land (of old extent)
                                                                                                                    of easter glen[tore]
with howses biggings yeards mosses muirs meadows pasturadge grass coall & lymestone pairts
                                                                                                                    pendicles [& haill]
pertinents y[e]rof whatsomever possest & lying as s[ai]d is Comprehending as s[ai]d is lying to ye
                                                                                               s[ai]d James Thomson you[nger]
& y[a]t by delyverance made by ye s[ai]d Andrew Dick baillie of earth & stone of ye ground of ye
                                                                                                      s[ai]d Lands as use is [intill]
James Thomson younger his own hand personaly present & receiveing the samen to be holdne &
                                                                                                                           with & under
reservations & burden particularly exprest in ye s[ai]d Dispositione Conform to ye s[ai]d Contract
                                                                                                           Dispositione & [precept]
a[for]insert y[e]rincontained in all poynts wherwpon & wpon all & sundrey ye premisses ye s[ai]d
                                                                                                                      James Thomson
asked & took instruments ane or moe in ye hands of me nottar publick hereto subscriveing y(i)r
                                                                                                                            things [      ]
and done wpon the ground of the fors[ai]d fifteen shilling Land (of old extent) of Easter glentore
                                                                                                                  betwixt [ye hours]