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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #9 on: Monday 17 March 25 20:54 GMT (UK) »

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Event Place   Whitechurch, New Ross, Wexford, County Wexford

FamilySearch at it again ...... New Ross is not in Wexford town.

Whitechurch townland
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelburne/whitechurch/whitechurch/whitechurch/

Though the reference would be to Whitechurch CofI/civil parish
https://www.townlands.ie/wexford/whitechurch2/
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 March 25 20:56 GMT (UK) »
I would also like to contact Roots member Summerhill https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=505146.0 about any other local resources that may help locate birth/death entries etc.


Once you have a few more posts here, you will be able to send a direct/personal message on this site.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #11 on: Monday 17 March 25 21:10 GMT (UK) »
In Cantwell's "Memorial of the Dead", the only Frizell entry I see is in Deralossory, Co. Wicklow.
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BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 March 25 21:47 GMT (UK) »
No Frizell entries in Ferns Wills.
No Wexford Frizelles in Prerogative Wills.
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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 March 25 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone appreciate all of your replies.

Apologies, the timeframe I'm looking at is between 1709 and my 3 x gt. grandad Robert Nicolls Frizell born 1796. His grandparents were Joseph Frizell and Mary Nicolls married in 1765 (Ossory), Joseph being the older son of Joseph Frizell and Elizabeth Elmes. Looking at both ends of the century I'm trying to fully establish that these Frizell's who were given settlement lands on Able Ram's land in Bantry townland, Dunamore/Goldenstown, Old Ross were Palatine refugees (can there be another explanation - were they already farmers in this area prior to 1709?). If they were part of the immigration could Joseph (married to Elizabeth Elmes) be the brother of William Frizell grandather of the Castlekevin Frizells? Similarly is Cornelia Frizell b.1690 married to William Elmes Joseph's sister? Cornelia made a will in 1769 how do I get hold of a copy? I've matched up the later Frizells on the Ferns index to a Frizell line in the same area and would be grateful for any help trying to access copies of baptisms for St Mary's Old Ross or any thoughts of where to look next. The Nicolls family were a military family with extensive ties to Duncannon Fort and were also landholders nearby. I suspect Joseph & Mary Nicholl's son may have been in the military (Robert's father) he died young from what I can tell hopefully not a victim of Scullabogue.

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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 March 25 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone appreciate all of your replies.

Apologies, the timeframe I'm looking at is between 1709 and my 3 x gt. grandad Robert Nicolls Frizell born 1796. His grandparents were Joseph Frizell and Mary Nicolls married in 1765 (Ossory), Joseph being the older son of Joseph Frizell and Elizabeth Elmes. Looking at both ends of the century I'm trying to fully establish that these Frizell's who were given settlement lands on Able Ram's land in Bantry townland, Dunamore/Goldenstown, Old Ross were Palatine refugees (can there be another explanation - were they already farmers in this area prior to 1709?). If they were part of the immigration could Joseph (married to Elizabeth Elmes) be the brother of William Frizell grandather of the Castlekevin Frizells? Similarly is Cornelia Frizell b.1690 married to William Elmes Joseph's sister? Cornelia made a will in 1769 how do I get hold of a copy? I've matched up the later Frizells on the Ferns index to a Frizell line in the same area and would be grateful for any help trying to access copies of baptisms for St Mary's Old Ross or any thoughts of where to look next. The Nicolls family were a military family with extensive ties to Duncannon Fort and were also landholders nearby. I suspect Joseph & Mary Nicholl's son may have been in the military (Robert's father) he died young from what I can tell hopefully not a victim of Scullabogue.

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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 March 25 20:11 GMT (UK) »
His grandparents were Joseph Frizell and Mary Nicolls married in 1765 (Ossory), J

I don't think so. They were married in Ferns, not Ossory - meaning the diocese of Ferns, not the village.

Also, the bride's name was Nicholls.
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Re: New member researching Joseph/William Frizell Old Ross 1709 Palatines
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 March 25 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Similarly is Cornelia Frizell b.1690 married to William Elmes Joseph's sister? Cornelia made a will in 1769 how do I get hold of a copy?

You can't. Lost 1922. Unless somehow otherwise recorded - e.g. in Registry of Deeds.
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