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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 March 25 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Well it seems that his name actually was Richard Pate Manning, not Richard Peter Manning.
His mother was a Pate.

Little was said and within moments one lay dead and the other would spend the rest of his life in an asylum.

Do we know he was admitted to an asylum right afterwards? It could have been some time later. Albeit he seems to have spent many years at Walton Lodge.
The death date in that article is wrong, 7 January seems to be the date of his burial at Wrexham
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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 March 25 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both. The OCR is quite bad on this but it's just about understandable. I'm not sure what it's all about.

Date: Friday,  Dec. 13, 1799

Publication: Chester Chronicle (Chester, England

NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, THAT the Partnership or Cortuexion lately sub- j fisting between RICHARD PATE MAN-! NING, late qf 'Whitchurch, in the county of Salop,j and WILLIAM JONES, of Whitchurch aforesaid, Surgeons, was dissolved by mutual consent, on the 2Sth i day of Octobei last—As witness our lunds the seventh day of December, 1799. SAMUEI, LOWE, for R. P. MANNING . • ' (P.y Power of Attorney) WILLIAM jONES. Signed in the presence of ? JOHN KNIGHT. £ * 7th December, 1799. NOTICE TO , DEBTORS" AND CREDITORS. I WHEREAS RICHARD PATE MANNING, late of Whitchurch, in the county of Salop, surgeon, hath (by Letter of Attorney) authorised Samuel Lowe, of Whitchurch aforesaid, gentleman, to! collect and receive all debts due to him, and also h's • pioportionable share of all debts due to the Co-part- i nership lately subsisting between him and WILLIAM JONES, of Whitchurch aforesaid, surgeon.—All per- j sons therefore indebted to the said Richard Pate Man- j ning, or to the said Co-partnership, are desired forthwith to pay their respective debts to the said Mr. S. j Lowe, who is authorised to give receipts for the same ; [ and all persons who have any demands on Mr. R. P. Manning, or the Co-partjicrship, are desired to ser.d j their accounts immediately to the said Mr. Lowe. I, the said WILLIAM JONES, in order to further' the wish of the said Mr. R. P. Manning, do con . it1 and have authorised the said Mr. S. Lowe to receive' my share of the said Co-partnership bill:, and give receipts for the same. WILLIAM JONES, i SWAN INN, STAFFORD. November 30, 1799.

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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 March 25 15:45 GMT (UK) »
I found the baptism of Richard Pate Manning in 1771 Wrexham,  father Richard Manning apothecary. No mother named. There's nothing more on his father in Wrexham.
There's a Richard Manning apothecary buried in Wrexham in 1763 who may be the grandfatherof  Richard Pate.
In 1720 Mary daughter of Richard Manning apothecary was baptised in Wrexham so they were around Wrexham

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Date: Friday,  Apr. 4, 1800  Chester Chronicle
 
R P. Manning, for the manslaughter of T. Jones, Esq. fined 6s. 8d. and imprisoned for months; 
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 March 25 16:09 GMT (UK) »



https://newspapers.library.wales/view/4589880/4589883/6/Manning


So Thomas Jones was born c 1738. What was his connection to Richard Pate Manning.
How many wives did he have. 3?
The Boydell family were landowners around Wrexham.



 The following inscription is in the chancel of Wrex ham Church:—" In memory of Thomas Jones, of Wrexham, in the county of Denbigh, who departed this life 26th of October, ann. dom., 1799, setat 61. Also of Jane.his first wife, who died 1st October, ann. dom., 1768, aetat 26. Ann, his second wife, who died 27th June, ann. dom., 1796, aetat 52. Ha ry, his second daughter by his last wife, who died an infant. Elizabeth, his third daughter, who .died September, ann. dom., 1796, aetat 17. Ann, his eldest daughter, wife of James Boydell, Esq., who died without issue, 23rd August, ann. dom., 1799, aetat 22; and of Richard, his second son by his last wife. who died un- married in the Island of Jamaica. 12th April, ann. dom., 1803, aetat 28. Is placed (a mournful record of the fragility of human life) this imperfect tribute of filial piety and fraternal affection."

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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 March 25 16:27 GMT (UK) »
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Will of Richard Manning 1778. Richard Pate Manning was his son. Only Child ? He would have been 7.

Wife Margaret.
A Thos Jones is a witness,  but that doesn't count for much, there were dozens around Wrexham.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 March 25 20:58 GMT (UK) »
https://viewer.library.wales/963427

Will of Richard Manning 1778. Richard Pate Manning was his son. Only Child ? He would have been 7.

Wife Margaret.
A Thos Jones is a witness,  but that doesn't count for much, there were dozens around Wrexham.

The newspaper article linked to states that Dr Manning had been Capt Jones' ward, so maybe it was the same person if he was connected to the making of the will

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 March 25 21:06 GMT (UK) »
According to https://journals.library.wales/view/4718179/4721846/335#?xywh=-765%2C1482%2C4641%2C2189 RP Manning became insane and was removed to an asylum in 1812

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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 March 25 13:23 GMT (UK) »
In 1841 Richard Pate  Manning is in the  Walton Lodge Licensed Madhouse.  :o
The proprietor is a Richard Squires, his wife Mary and 5 children aged between 5 and 1.
There are about 25 men who have  mostly well to do occupations and 8 ladies.
By 1851 the Squires have left.  it seems that the couple are living in separate households, Richard is with his mother and now working as a coal merchant in West Derby.  Richard died in 1854.
1851  Piece   2191
Folio   8
Page number   9

By 1851 John P Litchfield b 1806 Chelsea is there, about 30 inmates with only initials,  9 servants. Again they have good occupations, or did have.  John P Litchfield is married but his wife isn`t there,
a newspaper article from 1853   about Lunacy states he has retired.

 This may be him . New York Newspapers.
John Palmer Litchfield
Topic   Accident or Emergency Incident
Residence Place   New York, New York, USA
Publication Date   7 Aug 1852
Publication Place   New York, New York, USA

 
 UK and Ireland, Medical Registers, 1859-1943
John Palmer Litchfield
Registration Date   10 Jun 1859
Residence or Employment Date   1860
Residence or Employment Place   Rickwood, Near Kingston, Canada West

It`s possible he had already been in Australia .

John Palmer Litchfield Record Type   Cases Residence Date   26 Jul 1841 Residence North Adelaide
 Register of Insolvencies 1841-1928 he is a proprieter of a lunatic asylum, Moorfield House.
South Australia, Australia, Destitute Asylum Ledgers and Admissions to Industrial and Reformatory Schools, 1849-1913

Liverpool, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1970
Name   John Palmer Litchfield
Residence Year   1851-1852
Street Address   Walton Lodge

and in 1861 is a surgeon in  Canada West Frontenac . he died in 1868

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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 March 25 13:32 GMT (UK) »
According to https://journals.library.wales/view/4718179/4721846/335#?xywh=-765%2C1482%2C4641%2C2189 RP Manning became insane and was removed to an asylum in 1812

 Thanks . A nice find .I should have known our Local historian had already found this . if you scroll to page 275 there is Cornish Hall. My ancestor Thomas Wilcoxon was born there  1803 and the family had been there as farmers from about 1780. They would have known all about this .
I was lucky enough to visit Cornish a few years ago,  I know it`s nothing to do with this thread but thought I`d add it anyway  ;D

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